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Hobo Stew
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I tried working at a museum after the BA, but that job didn't work out and with the recession, most museums are getting their funds drastically cut.
Also, even though the dead are easy to work with (they don't complain, can't backstab, or compete for your job, haha), I was ready to try the living. Children are mostly good and excited to learn about the world.
I am glad to hear that this post has helped you Shantaram. It has me too.  Thanks to everyone who replied! |
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Chancellor
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread is really helpful, thanks to everyone who has given advice. 'Bookmarking' it! |
So, what are you going to do? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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I tried working at a museum after the BA, but that job didn't work out and with the recession, most museums are getting their funds drastically cut.
Also, even though the dead are easy to work with (they don't complain, can't backstab, or compete for your job, haha), I was ready to try the living. Children are mostly good and excited to learn about the world.
I am glad to hear that this post has helped you Shantaram. It has me too. Smile Thanks to everyone who replied! |
If you want to get naught boys involved let them hit you with a ball or water balloon if they do something good. Their eyes will light up and they will actually try to answer questions. |
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Chancellor
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| It looks like an interesting program, though still college based. I took the plunge and signed up for Texas Teachers because I already have a four-year degree (part of which is in special education). |
Did you get a job?
I plan to apply for Texas Teaching Fellows next fall. I will apply for 4 to 8 ESL. |
Why are you going to wait until next fall to apply for the program? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to save more money. I need to move from Taiwan to the US and buy a car. That is why I will not apply until fall 2010. |
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Chancellor
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| Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to save more money. I need to move from Taiwan to the US and buy a car. That is why I will not apply until fall 2010. |
That makes sense (though I'm sure you'd like it to make dollars and cents). |
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JZer
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The point is that in my current job I would have more spending money than making $42,000 as a first year teacher in Texas. I am getting the teacher's license for job security and the opportunity to apply to international schools or apply for a job in Australia or New Zealand. I cannot apply for those jobs without a teacher's license.
Currently I can save $1000 US a month and eat out every meal. Good luck doing that in the US. |
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Chancellor
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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The point is that in my current job I would have more spending money than making $42,000 as a first year teacher in Texas. I am getting the teacher's license for job security and the opportunity to apply to international schools or apply for a job in Australia or New Zealand. I cannot apply for those jobs without a teacher's license.
Currently I can save $1000 US a month and eat out every meal. Good luck doing that in the US. |
$42,000 depending on the school district. Some pay considerably less: http://www.teacher-world.com/teacher-salary/texas.html and http://www.eaglepassisd.net/employ/thiring.pdf
But, yes, I agree that even though you make less money in most TEFL jobs overseas, you don't have the same cost of living as in the States. Like you, I'm pursuing alternative teacher certification with the eventual goal of getting into international schools. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe that the minimum pay for the Texas Teaching Fellows is $42,000. |
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Chancellor
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| I believe that the minimum pay for the Texas Teaching Fellows is $42,000. |
Again, that depends on what school district you apply to. In a place like San Antonio it's more like $42,000 but in a place like Eagle Pass it's more like $25,000. It has to do with what district you're in, not whether you're going through Texas Teachers or some other alternative certification program or have become a teacher the traditional way (at least that's what I discovered from checking out various school district websites). |
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JZer
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| Again, that depends on what school district you apply to. In a place like San Antonio it's more like $42,000 but in a place like Eagle Pass is more like $25,000. It has to do with what district you're in, not whether you're going through Texas Teachers or some other alternative certification program or have become a teacher the traditional way (at least that's what I discovered from checking out various school district websites). |
Texas Teaching Fellows does not place people in Eagle Pass. That must be why they list the minimum at $40,000. They do say it will depend upon district. They place teachers in Austin and San Antonio. Thus they quote $40,000 to $45,000 with no classroom experience. |
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Chancellor
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| Again, that depends on what school district you apply to. In a place like San Antonio it's more like $42,000 but in a place like Eagle Pass is more like $25,000. It has to do with what district you're in, not whether you're going through Texas Teachers or some other alternative certification program or have become a teacher the traditional way (at least that's what I discovered from checking out various school district websites). |
Texas Teaching Fellows does not place people in Eagle Pass. That must be why they list the minimum at $40,000. They do say it will depend upon district. They place teachers in Austin and San Antonio. Thus they quote $40,000 to $45,000 with no classroom experience. |
Texas Teaching Fellows must be a different program from Texas Teachers (the latter being a program where you apply for jobs directly with whatever school districts you're interested in). If you get the opportunity, take a look at Texas Teachers (www.texasteachers.org). |
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JZer
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| Texas Teaching Fellows must be a different program from Texas Teachers (the latter being a program where you apply for jobs directly with whatever school districts you're interested in). If you get the opportunity, take a look at Texas Teachers (www.texasteachers.org). |
Chancellor, thanks. You can take a look at Texas Teaching Fellows as well if you are interested. |
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Chancellor
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| Texas Teaching Fellows must be a different program from Texas Teachers (the latter being a program where you apply for jobs directly with whatever school districts you're interested in). If you get the opportunity, take a look at Texas Teachers (www.texasteachers.org). |
Chancellor, thanks. You can take a look at Texas Teaching Fellows as well if you are interested. |
I did. I didn't like the idea of having to attend a six-week summer institute (particularly since I work a full-time job; it's easier for me to have that course work broken up into smaller segments, especially since doing the on-site ones requires that I fly Western New York State to Texas). However, like Texas Teachers, you do have to pass the various TExES content exams for the areas of teaching you want to go into (for ESL and special education, however, you also have to pass a generalist exam) and, once you get hired by a school district, you have a certain amount of time to pass the Pedagogy and Professional Responsibilities Exam for EC-4, 4-8 or 8-12 and it is passing this that gets you your standard state teaching license.
Oh, on the pay thing: your Texas Teaching Fellows had this to say, "The starting salary for Fellows is the same as other first-year teachers in Texas public schools. Beginning teachers with no previous classroom experience will typically earn between $40,000 and $45,000 in their first year, although pay may vary based upon district placement, performance pay, and the teacher�s education level" (emphasis mine).
What's interesting is that in Texas it's getting to the point where pretty soon the majority of new teachers in Texas public schools will be coming from these alternative certification programs as the traditional route (degree in education followed by getting teacher certification) is becoming less and less popular. |
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Hadit
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I appreciate this informative thread, and am considering these alternate programs as well. I read of one in Phoenix, AZ, and it said it was highly competitive and wanted applicants to interview there on site. Is this the case with the others? That would be a big expense to not get into the program.
Also, I like the idea of getting certified but also want to make sure it includes ESL, as I would like to perhaps get into the ME job market at some point. Are there programs that give MA in Education with ESL concentration? I'll search for more info upon the various programs, just wondering if anyone knows off hand. Thanks. |
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