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Why don't Native Speaker teachers work together????
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Why don't Native Speaker teachers work together???? Reply with quote

TwinCentre wrote:


In Thailand, there is a very popular site for TEFL teachers (ajarn.com), and I believe regular users of that site have formed a social group to booze and stuff. BUT, through their comrad-ship they have actually helped to push up salaries in Bangkok, just by being in the know and obviously knowing which schools to avoid.


Really? How can you ever prove that Ajarn.com has pushed up salaries?

Sure is a nice idea though.

'Earn more pay using Dave's ESL cafe.' It should be our slogan. Cool

And it's probably happening already, come to think of it.

Since reading posts on this forum, I have raised my asking hourly rate a bit.
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TwinCentre



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Why don't Native Speaker teachers work together???? Reply with quote

Master Shake wrote:


Really? How can you ever prove that Ajarn.com has pushed up salaries?



Err, can't prove it. Maybe my British sense of irony got the better of me. Or maybe I'm just careless in my writing.

BUT, I do believe that a country specific site such as Ajarn.com does a lot to educate people on what is a decent wage and what isn't thus helping people to choose more carefully, thus, possibly, resulting in teachers avoiding the poorly paid gigs and that can only help to encourage schools to pay less 'bad'.
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Tracer



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Location: Warszawa, PL

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Wowsers Reply with quote

Wow, it's been a long time since I dropped into this watering whole to hear the latest gripes counterbalanced by "pull yourself up by the boot straps" inspirational speeches. Hell of a good read.

I'd have to side with le messieur Porter. I think Poland is full of opportunities for native speakers and others, (if this is the place you really want to be). The economy is on good footing (despite what some say). Polish banks didn't over extend themselves like western banks and the Poles actually produce things, mine and export. I changed most of my USD$ for ZL recently and I'm glad I did. In my opinion, you're going to see the USD$ tick down gradually to around 2zl. in the not so distant future.

Anyway, the point is:

For me personally I've had a lot of ups and downs in Poland. I experienced severe culture shock when I first got here, and the Polish winter was a real duzey (I'm from California). People seemed to be cold and complained to much. Pretty soon I was complaining too and wondering what they hell I was doing in this !@#$@ country.

I was also very distracted by a business venture I was launching back in the states remotely (via internet) and a thousand other business ideas I had for the future (none of which involved teaching). The result was I was constantly distracted and my first months of teaching were not as good as they could have been.

Then I adapted. I got used to it. I started to make friends and figure it out. I still don't love Poland (Warsaw I should say), but I understand it now. I don't want to live here forever, but it's a good place to be for the next 9 months and I wouldn't mind owning an equity share in a business operation here.

The economy has got a lot of potential. I'm an American and I managed to get my Dzialalnos'c' (Self employment status). Now I can work for any school or individual that would care to hire me and I can provide invoices. It wasn't that hard to get set up.

In my opinion Poland is a country that is still trying to find itself. Warsaw is really all over the board. Full of extremes. Really smart people that impress you, really dumb people that are equally impressive (in a negative way). Very kind people, very inconsiderate people. People who like to throw their weight around and show off, and people who are modest.

It's a hell of an experience.
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justflyingin



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Wowsers Reply with quote

Tracer wrote:
Warsaw is really all over the board. Full of extremes. Really smart people that impress you, really dumb people that are equally impressive (in a negative way). Very kind people, very inconsiderate people. People who like to throw their weight around and show off, and people who are modest.



I find this true just outside of Warsaw as well.

But in honesty, isn't it true everywhere.

As to business ventures. My daughters and I are looking for a women's self-defense course and can't find one. I think it might be a wide open market. Sad I know it's not necessarily related to English, but it's representative of one of the potential markets that isn't really filled yet.

There are other areas where it seems like it's still wide open. I also agree that English seems like a open market. I'm not sure which niche would be the best, but it doesn't seem like the market is flooded yet.

It is true, also, that you have to want to be here in order to make it for ten years. There are some challenges to face, but I'm sure they are everywhere. But most of admit that in a warmer, sunnier climate, things are easier to handle (and heating costs less).

As to this last winter being a bad one--I disagree (respectfully, of course) and laughed when I read that the people around were complaining about how cold it was. I don't think it got "really cold" very long. (Just like this past summer was very mild.) We had hardly any really hot days (and my pumpkins are showing the effects of a cooler summer.

You really have to learn to let the Polish propensity to complain go right over your head. It is their favorite pastime. They may or may not really mean it. I used to take it all to heart, but have been learning to not let it get to me as much. I'm still fighting the urge to believe them, or to take it all too seriously.
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