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trapezius
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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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| And there are people who were born in the Magic Kingdom with a Saudi father and a foreigner mother and lived more than 20 years and still did not get their Saudi citizenship!!! |
As far as I know what the laws say, a child born to a Saudi father and a non-Saudi mother is considered a Saudi and automatically granted Saudi citizenship on birth. However, a child of a non-Saudi father and a Saudi mother is eligible for Saudi citizenship when the child turns 18, and only if the child is male. Until that age, the male child has the citizenship of the father, whatever that may be. Yes, this is the Kingdom of Humanity for you.
Anyway, I am not trying to get this thread locked. In fact, far harsher things have already been said in here!
I want to say something about giving birth, not that I have a uterus or anything  My wife was pregnant in Saudi earlier this year and we were planning on having the delivery here, but in the end, my wife traveled to the UK 6 weeks before the EDD to her parents to deliver there. The reason was due to iqama/citizenship/religion issues.
Anyway, the baby was due March 30, and I booked my ticket for March 15, because my wife felt our daughter was going to come early. And early she came, on March 7, which means I missed the delivery 
Anyway, later we heard stories from her colleagues who delivered in Jeddah (in the top private hospitals) around the same time which made us realize that it was best to deliver in the UK. A couple of them:
1) This probably applies to all hospitals. After delivery, they took the baby away to the nursery/incubators and refused to bring the baby to the mother for a couple of days. The mother begged them because she wanted to breastfeed, but they told her not to worry about feeding, as they were giving the baby formula!  Saudi women are not keen on breast-feeding at all (or doing any child rearing at all, maids take care of everything), so even the medical community here is, at worst, somewhat anti-breastfeeding, or at best, pro-formula feeding. In fact, in the first couple of days, a substance called as 'colostrum' is produced, and it is extremely rich in antibodies and it is highly essential that all babies should get it. And even if a mother decides not to breastfeed for whatever reason, there is no need for a full term healthy baby to be kept in warm boxes for a couple of days. It is highly essential that the baby be given to the mother and should stay with the mother. But apparently they have some twisted belief in Saudi that all babies should be put in warm boxes away from mothers for a couple of days 
2) This is just a tragic story. The baby defecated just before birth, and the doctor should have made the call to have a C-section, but didn't. In the mean time, the fecal matter was inhaled by the baby and went in to her lungs. It has been 4 months, and the baby is still in the hospital due to life-threatening complications resulting from that  When the father complained to the hospital admin, the doctor said it was the father's fault that he didn't ask for a C-section!!!  What the hell? A C-section is called by a doctor, not something that is opted for by the patient. And the time span available for deciding whether to call a C-section or not is very short, and clearly the doctor f-ed up, and placed the blame on the father. When he raised some more voice, the hospital offered them SR. 100,000 compensation (plus paid on-going treatment). This hospital looks like a 5-star hotel inside and outside, and has the reputation of being the most prestigious hospital in Jeddah, if not in Saudi, and has collaboration with the Cleveland Clinic, one of the best hospitals in the US.
I am glad my wife ended up going to the UK due to circumstances beyond our control, circumstances I might add, resulting from some of the 'humane' laws of the country! 
Because surely if my wife had given birth here and they had taken the baby away to a warm box away from us, I honestly fear for what I would have done. |
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007
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Baby blood in the Magic Kingdom.
Produced by trapezius
Written by trapezius
Starring trapezius et al
Music by Uncle Scott
Distributed by United English
Release date October 21, 2009
Running time 115 minutes
Country Magic Kingdom
Language English
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scot47
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| My wife deliverd our second daughter in Ghassan Pharaon in Jeddah. She had no complaints and found it a positive experience after delivering our first in a hospital in Bulgaria. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Congratulation for your second daughter, Uncle Scott.
I guess they did not take her to that warm box which trap described!
Uncle Scott, shall I call you Abu Sarrah or Abu Christina? |
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