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X-Bar Theory
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| And are you saying that UNE has one course where most peopel fail? I didn't really understand what you wrote. |
Naturegirl, that comment was posted almost 7 years ago (Feb. 2003). Things have obviously changed since then by looking at the current faculty. I've never taken the programme, but I do know people who have.
Here's the link to that comment:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=752 |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. BUt I think I'm going with USQ |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Online and distance MA in Education with the OU |
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| Chris_Crossley wrote: |
Another possibility, if you want to check out online and distance learning master's degrees in England, is the Open University's Masters in Education programme at http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/qualification/f01.htm.
An MA or M.Ed. degree of the Open University requires the completion of three 60-point modules (or 30-point half-module equivalents), usually at the rate of 60 points per study-year. As of 31/12/2010, there will be just one compulsory 60-point module, E891 Educational Enquiry, http://www3.open.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/course/e891.htm, but the remaining 120 points can be chosen from the list given on the first cited URL above, including from modules contributing to the MA in Online and Distance Education (MAODE); I did two 30-point half-modules in e-learning from the MAODE course list.
I have studied four 60-point and two 30-point courses and gained both an M.Ed. in Applied Linguistics and an MA in Education, since the O.U. allowed me to count the same 60-point module towards both degrees.
As a general rule, the O.U. insists that students study a minimum number of points of new study equivalent to one-third of any qualification at any level, ranging from undergraduate certificates right up to masters degrees. |
So as I understand it, you only need 3 courses for the MA? |
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X-Bar Theory
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| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| Thanks. BUt I think I'm going with USQ |
You're welcome. USQ's programme looks interesting. All the best! |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: Re: Online and distance MA in Education with the OU |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| So as I understand it, you only need 3 courses for the (Open University) MA? |
Yes, provided that each course is worth 60 academic study points, since the whole MA requires the completion of 180 points. See my PM for more details.
If you have any further questions about O.U. study, please PM me again. |
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Hadit
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| Zero wrote: |
| Why does everyone go for TESL master's degrees? I'm curious as to how much of an advantage it gives in the job market or in salary? I guess it varies by country? I'm most interested in China. My impression is that in China, it doesn't count for much. |
Hi Zero, you are right. You should look into getting a teacher's license to work in international schools for the best salaries in China, as opposed to an MA�the universities hire people with a Bachelors so that's all you need. |
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doner
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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The MA in TESOL program currently includes such (visiting?) faculty as Jeremy Harmer and Scott Thornbury. |
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chimsect
Joined: 25 Nov 2009
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Location: Seoul
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A. Aren't you American? If so, why do you keep using the British standard spelling system (e.g., "programmes") in your posts if you are American? I guess it's your prerogative to do so because any native English speaker with half a brain can understand this quirk of cultural differentiation, and I certainly don't want to offend you - it just seems a bit peculiar, that's all. Or perhaps you are not American, in which case I am terribly sorry - I thought from your posts that you were American (except for your insistence on using British spelling schemes).
B. If you would like to go for a Master's degree, might I suggest developing an actual research interest in the subject which you would like to study and then making the sacrifice of doing it at a real, bona fide, accredited university in a real "programme" on campus, rather than simply looking at graduate school as some sort of "quick-fix" solution to some perceived immediate need? But if that's not important to you (or your students), and you simply want to take the easy way out, then by all means just go ahead and do an Internet search and get the cheapest possible "degree" from some online outift that has no admissions standards (e.g., minimum GPA or GRE scores) and then put the pedal to the metal! (I hope you'll forgive my use of an American idiom here, assuming you may not be American).
Best of luck,
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doner
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jdl
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GambateBingBangBOOM
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| chimsect wrote: |
| A. Aren't you American? If so, why do you keep using the British standard spelling system (e.g., "programmes") in your posts if you are American? I guess it's your prerogative to do so because any native English speaker with half a brain can understand this quirk of cultural differentiation, and I certainly don't want to offend you - it just seems a bit peculiar, that's all. Or perhaps you are not American, in which case I am terribly sorry - I thought from your posts that you were American (except for your insistence on using British spelling schemes). |
Canadians generally spell like British people although they pronounce (and have sentence structures that read) like American people (and are considered North American speakers of English by linguistics). If you are from the US and work in an area where people learn a more British version of spelling, then you may adopt that spelling system, just as many Canadians and British people adopt US spelling due to Word.
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B. If you would like to go for a Master's degree, might I suggest developing an actual research interest in the subject which you would like to study and then making the sacrifice of doing it at a real, bona fide, accredited university in a real "programme" on campus, rather than simply looking at graduate school as some sort of "quick-fix" solution to some perceived immediate need? But if that's not important to you (or your students), and you simply want to take the easy way out, then by all means just go ahead and do an Internet search and get the cheapest possible "degree" from some online outift that has no admissions standards (e.g., minimum GPA or GRE scores) and then put the pedal to the metal! (I hope you'll forgive my use of an American idiom here, assuming you may not be American).
Best of luck,
chimsect |
If you knew anything about universities outside of the US (and to an extent, Canada) then you'd know that off-campus programs are considered totally equivalent to on-campus programs in the UK (and likely Ireland) or Australia (and likely New Zealand). |
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spiral78
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A. Aren't you American? If so, why do you keep using the British standard spelling system (e.g., "programmes") in your posts if you are American?
I am American and also use British spelling very often. I have worked in Europe for years now and most of my colleagues are British. I simply don't see it as a problem - why should anyone care what spelling system any poster uses? |
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santi84
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| Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| chimsect wrote: |
B. If you would like to go for a Master's degree, might I suggest developing an actual research interest in the subject which you would like to study and then making the sacrifice of doing it at a real, bona fide, accredited university in a real "programme" on campus, rather than simply looking at graduate school as some sort of "quick-fix" solution to some perceived immediate need? But if that's not important to you (or your students), and you simply want to take the easy way out, then by all means just go ahead and do an Internet search and get the cheapest possible "degree" from some online outift that has no admissions standards (e.g., minimum GPA or GRE scores) and then put the pedal to the metal! (I hope you'll forgive my use of an American idiom here, assuming you may not be American).
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Your comments sound pretty rude.
In naturegirl's first post, you'll find that she already has an MA in TEFL and has spent two years doing coursework and an additional year doing her thesis. |
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chimsect
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| I am American and also use British spelling very often. I have worked in Europe for years now and most of my colleagues are British. I simply don't see it as a problem - why should anyone care what spelling system any poster uses? |
Well, I certainly never thought you or anyone else would need my approval to do what you feel like doing - please don't be offended or let me stop you from having at it - please, if using a British spelling scheme makes you feel better for some reason, knock yourself out. Actually, I thought I had made my intent perfectly clear when I posed the question in the first place. Indeed, the entire context of my original statement indicated quite clearly that I was just curious because it seemed a bit peculiar, that's all. I mean, I was just curious as to why someone who is American (at least I think that's the case) would deliberately go out of his or her way to use a different spelling system than the one he or she was taught in school and brought up with from day one, for no actual reason related to the reader's comprehension or the writer's current residence, ethinicity, etc.
I'm not saying it's wrong, and who would I be to say so anyhow? I mean, neither system is right or wrong, especially as there is no bearing whatsoever on grammatical or dialectical variation. I'm just curious as to what would impel someone to make a conscious effort to take on an entirely different way of presenting information even thought it has no effect on comprehension, etc. Sorry if that touched a nerve.
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In naturegirl's first post, you'll find that she already has an MA in TEFL and has spent two years doing coursework and an additional year doing her thesis. |
OK, sorry for not pussyfooting and beating around the bush here, but let's look at the facts. The title of the thread refers to a plea for assistance in finding an "easy" MA program. At the same time, the OP says she's already completed some semblance of an "MA" from a fly-by-night Spanish university but was later shocked-SHOCKED- to discover that her "degree" is regarded in academic and professional circles as a complete joke. She could have taken that as a lesson learned, to wit - there is no such thing as a free lunch - but none of this seems to have activated the OP's schema of prior knowledge and experience.
In fact, it just seems to me that the OP is now getting right back in the hunt, heading down the same road to nowhere, destined to repeat the same mistake that she should have learned (or "learnt") from in the first place. If this sounds harsh, I'm sorry. But let me just pose this question if I may: After completing this next "MA" from some other dubious online outfit, will the OP be proud to tell her students that she completed a "quick and easy" online MA simply because she felt some pressing need to compensate for her previous joke of an MA?
Sorry, but maybe I'm just giving my two cents (OK, in the OP's case, my two pence), as a warning not to be taken in by "quick fix" solutions to perceived inadequacies. Some things in life require hard work and discipline to achieve something valuable - that's life. And when it comes to MA programs, having an actual intellectual interest in the subject is probably a good starting point. But hey, I guess that makes me a jerk or a cad or a something. Again, I hope my forthrightness will not cause "offence." |
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guty
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Chimsect,
I think you are making some valid points about the title of the post, and some interesting ones about the possible implications of naturegirl's decision making.
Unfortunately I think that some of the better content of your posts have been overshadowed by the style, which appears biased and judgemental, rather than simply 'curious' or 'not beating around the bush'. I am sure you choose your words carefully and already knew this.
It would be a shame if your advice is not even considered because of how it was delivered. |
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