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Neil McBeath
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Location: Saudi Arabia
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 Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:50 am Post subject: Can you get a job in Saudi with an online DELTA |
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Sabsibar1,
It actually wasn't any trouble at all.
This was some years ago. I finished the MSc. in 1991 and started the M.App.Ling. in 1995, so it might have been that ASton were not offering the M. Phil. at that time.
I made the consciuos choice NOT to do a Ph.D because at that time I felt that my future was completely secure with RAFO. With hidsight, that could have been a mistake, but I really do not think that a PH.D. would have taken me anywhere better than my present position.
I could have got here by a different route, perhaps, but that's another matter. |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Can you get a job in Saudi with a online Delta? |
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| skullytefldude wrote: |
| Can you get hired in Saudi with a B.A. ,Tefl and a online Delta? |
I am not the usual grammar police but you need to understand that if you teach ESL you will need to teach the ARTICLES. What you should have said is, "can I get a job in Saudi with AN online Delta."
To answer your question is a bit more difficult. Some employers will hire almost any warm body willing to subject themselves to the abysmal conditions in this place and others will specify "no online certificates."
Avoid International House in Saudi under any circumstances. |
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scot47
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| There is a long list of employers that are best avoided. Saudi Arabia is a DIFFICULT place to live and work in. Do not compound your problems by coming here through a bad employer. |
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norwalkesl
Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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Location: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-China
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| Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:09 am Post subject: |
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| Dominic-Pax wrote: |
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Potential employers are probably more interested in whetrher or not you are a graduate. Wiuthout a degree your prospects of employment are minimal
As for distance learning ("online") many places are suspicious of them. Unjustly in some cases I feel |
There are many high quality distance MA TESOL programs. There is no reason to be suspicious of a distance degree earned from a respectable university. |
This has nothing to do with what WE THINK. What the EMPLOYER THINKS is the only thing that matters. If they do not trust online/distance/blended degrees then do not get one. Why risk complications? Just do it boots on the ground in person and get the student ID badge and be done with it. |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: Online DELTA avoid Education Experts at all costs |
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In addition to my previous post in which I said to avoid International House; you should avoid Education Experts and their recruiter, Global Skyline Solutions. They will promise you a position in Riyadh and proper working visas but you will likely be stationed in Najran on the border with Yemen. There you may hear gunfire and rocket fire from the war raging in the frontier. I have heard such myself.
Education Experts does not have the money to pay wages and the rental payments are at least a month late so the teachers may get evicted at any time. The company also does not have the wasta (pull) or money to secure working visas so they will give you a Government Visit Visa that has only 4 words in English on it. Those 4 words are, "Not Permitted to Work" The ONLY advantage to such a visa which makes you a criminal when you work is that, unlike having a work visa and iqama (work/residency permit) you can leave the country any time you wish. |
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norwalkesl
Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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Location: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-China
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Since this thread mentions dodgy work conditions for recruiters in the KSA, I ask:
What is the closest safest place to bug out to if the KSA/Oman/Yemen/Arabian Peninsula becomes unstable/unsafe?
IOW how to get as safe as possible in the least amount of time?
India? Israel? Eqypt? Ethiopia/Eritrea? Qatar? Bahrain? The Emirates? Djibouti? Karachi? Diego Garcia?
Fly or Drive or Boat?
Swim? 
This is a serious query - just want to know where one goes if TSHTF... |
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scot47
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Israel !? Are you nuts ?
From where I am there is a choice of Kuwait or Baghdad. I think I will choose neither.
If you are on the Red Sea side of KSA you could try Asmara in Eritrea or Addis in Ethiopia.
If you are in south you could go to yemen in serach of peace, freedom and stability. Or Somalia.
The fact is that the whole region is unstable but KSA - and the other gulf countries are havens of peace in comparison. |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:22 am Post subject: I could walk to Yemen from my place |
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| norwalkesl wrote: |
Since this thread mentions dodgy work conditions for recruiters in the KSA, I ask:
What is the closest safest place to bug out to if the KSA/Oman/Yemen/Arabian Peninsula becomes unstable/unsafe?
IOW how to get as safe as possible in the least amount of time?
India? Israel? Eqypt? Ethiopia/Eritrea? Qatar? Bahrain? The Emirates? Djibouti? Karachi? Diego Garcia?
Fly or Drive or Boat?
The problem with going to Yemen is that one would be getting from the fying pan DIRECTLY into the fire.
Here are my actual, workable suggestions if one is faced with such a dire position. One way would be to make friends with a Saudi in Khobar/Dharan or Dammam and get him to take you to Bahrain in the trunk of his car on a Wednesday evening when hordes of Saudis go for booze & Chinese female company.
The second choice also involves the trunk of a car. Go to Khafji which is right on the Kuwait border, meet one of the many Kuwaitis who travels that border daily and ride in his trunk out on any day you wish.
Those choices seem extreme but you asked for workable solutions and such things have been done in the past.
Swim?
This is a serious query - just want to know where one goes if TSHTF... |
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Sheikh N Bake
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
Posts: 1307
Location: Dis ting of ours
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Damn--I keep getting the International House of KSA confused with the International House of Pancakes.  |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:13 pm Post subject: IHOP |
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| At least at IHOP you can get sausage with your eggs and pancakes!!! |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: porkchops |
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| or a brace of pork chops with those eggs. This time next week I'll be eating pork chops, sausage, saurkraut & pork, pork N beans, pork roast, lechon & pork adobo & washing my pork down with cold beer while talking to women I'm not even married to LOL. |
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Sheikh N Bake
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| Women, yes. I don't know about the sausage part |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
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Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 2:32 pm Post subject: Confused? Why? |
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| Sausage is made from pork. Both pork & women are unavailable here. The difference between a Saudi woman and a sack of potatoes is: Potatoes come in brown sacks. |
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veiledsentiments
Joined: 20 Feb 2003
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Location: USA
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Let's not decline into sexism gentlemen...
VS |
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scot47
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| Isn't that a bit offensive ? AND sexist ? |
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