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vgchiang
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| what's their view and expectations for those who haven't had any teaching experience? I've only got a bachelor's degree, and am a little nervous about the interview since I've never really taught. |
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The Hungry Yeti
Joined: 03 Jan 2010
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Location: Spartanburg, SC
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| what's their view and expectations for those who haven't had any teaching experience? I've only got a bachelor's degree, and am a little nervous about the interview since I've never really taught. |
Not sure. Didn't ask.
I interviewed with Nishi ,and he seemed very helpful and willing to answer questions.
Just relax. Look up some sample lessons on the net. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Interview went well. Not unprofessional, but it was very relaxed.
I was asked what I would do if in a certain situation. What kind of lesson would I do for a group of 2nd or 3rd graders? Not difficult.
Talked about location choices.
Getting signed up for health care, bank account, etc.
No warning signs from this guy but it was just an interview. He said I would probably get a sample contract and info packet in a few days. I will give my impression of those when they arrive.
He said that sometimes they don't know where you are to be placed right away because they bid with other dispatch companies to place teachers.
I asked him about housing. The website says that Alts in Saitama and Chiba will live in a guesthouse. I asked him about this and he said it depends on how close you are to the main city and Tokyo.
Pleasant conversation. Nothing pushy. Very informal. |
So he didn't talk about the Visa thing? |
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The Hungry Yeti
Joined: 03 Jan 2010
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Location: Spartanburg, SC
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:38 am Post subject: |
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[/quote]So he didn't talk about the Visa thing?[/quote]
The only he said about the Visa was that they took care of it all. When I get the info packet and sample contract I will ask about it. |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| The only he said about the Visa was that they took care of it all. When I get the info packet and sample contract I will ask about it. |
So you've already been hired? |
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The Hungry Yeti
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:45 am Post subject: |
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[/quote]So you've already been hired?[/quote]
No. But he said that he would send a sample contract and info packet for me to look over. <shrug> |
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ssjup81
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| No. But he said that he would send a sample contract and info packet for me to look over. <shrug> |
Seems we were interviewed round about the same time by the looks of it, just by different people, obviously, as we're in the same time zone. Was yours round about 9:00 pm, too?
I was told that I wouldn't receive something like that until decisions had been made about those they wanted to hire on. I guess it depends on the interviewer. I know I would love to see a sample of the packet to get an idea of what the contract is like and for the Visa information since I'm skeptical on it.
I wonder if I got the job, with the way the interviewer was talking. Not sure if he slipped a lot or not during it as we kept talking, but he kept saying things, "When you're hired," and stuff like that. Not the safe, "if you are hired". |
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The Hungry Yeti
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| A little after 9. Sent you a PM. |
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Bread
Joined: 24 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| ssjup81 wrote: |
| I wonder if I got the job, with the way the interviewer was talking. Not sure if he slipped a lot or not during it as we kept talking, but he kept saying things, "When you're hired," and stuff like that. Not the safe, "if you are hired". |
I didn't read through all this, and it sounds like you're outside of Japan while I was inside, but my experience was like this as well. I wasn't sure whether I'd gotten the job, and I didn't want to flat-out ASK, and he kept saying vague things that made it SOUND like I MAYBE had a job. Then I went to a "second interview/training session" and it turned out to be an orientation for people who had been hired. So yeah, they do that. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Pretty much obtain a Tourist Visa, since those who are successful applicants have to arrive way before the start date anyway, and then go to the Immigration Office and just do a Change of Visa Status to a Work Visa Status. The interviewer said that it was easier and cheaper on the applicant that way as far as processing goes, especially since they'll already have the information prior to getting there anyway. |
Cheaper? How so? How much is getting the visa their way compared to doing it the normal way?
My visa cost me a first class stamp (to send the docs I couldn't hand over at the interview) and �5 processing at the London consulate. |
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OneJoelFifty
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:08 am Post subject: |
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My interview was similarly relaxed, but I didn't find it unprofessional.
I thought the conversational nature of it was just as much about sizing up my personality and enthusiasm for Japan and teaching as it was my teaching ability, which was good considering my lack of the latter. In my case I'd already submitted my CV and a couple of short essay answers through their website a couple of months back.
I read through the contract and it seemed fairly simple compared to some of the clauses I've seen people on here talk about. I'll have another read through today and post anything that seems worthy of discussion. |
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Deep Thirteen
Joined: 23 May 2009
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Location: East Sea Japan
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| What are the big advantages of going through a recruiter that recruits for Heart, as opposed to just applying to Heart directly? I've done both, and have received replies from both. |
I'd imagine it wouldn't matter too much if you spoke to a 3rd party recruiter for the job. It might even be that they use the English speaking recruiter to interview you anyway if you applied via their site or by a recruiter like Aclipse. |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Everything sounds okay...the only thing I wasn't fully 100% with was the Visa thing. The person who interviewed me noted that the alternate process was normal.
Pretty much obtain a Tourist Visa, since those who are successful applicants have to arrive way before the start date anyway |
Why? There is usually no reason to rush a teacher into a job. If someone leaves the position suddenly (good reason or bad), then ok, but in the natural course of planning for new recruits to be hired, a company knows when the openings will come up and plan accordingly.
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| ...and then go to the Immigration Office and just do a Change of Visa Status to a Work Visa Status. The interviewer said that it was easier and cheaper on the applicant that way as far as processing goes, especially since they'll already have the information prior to getting there anyway. |
Easier than filing paperwork from your home country where you know the language and can find your way to the embassy/consulate without a mistake? How is it easier? Paperwork is essentially the same and you can wait in the comfort of your home country. Cheaper? Nope. Not at all. Don't let people tell you otherwise without a clear explanation.
Other negative reports about Heart:
No contract or ability to see it before signing.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=67563&highlight=heart
Keeping one's passport while visa is processed (a totally unnecessary and illegal procedure).
http://www.ithinkimlost.com/non-jet-career-education/10160-heart-corporation-heart-english-school-2.html
General comments.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/teacher/viewtopic.php?t=5032 |
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ssjup81
Joined: 15 Jun 2009
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Location: Adachi-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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| Glenski wrote: |
| Why? There is usually no reason to rush a teacher into a job. If someone leaves the position suddenly (good reason or bad), then ok, but in the natural course of planning for new recruits to be hired, a company knows when the openings will come up and plan accordingly. |
He was saying, for the most part, they aren't sure how many positions will open, yet, since the different BOEs that recruit them don't really let them know as late as mid-February. He also said it just depends on the time that the BOE gets back to them or when they tell them. If they're okay with the applicant, and they have time, they go the normal process since there's training in March to start in April.[quote]
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| Easier than filing paperwork from your home country where you know the language and can find your way to the embassy/consulate without a mistake? How is it easier? Paperwork is essentially the same and you can wait in the comfort of your home country. Cheaper? Nope. Not at all. Don't let people tell you otherwise without a clear explanation. |
Actually, he said that candidates would be escorted there and helped out and all that. I think what he meant by "cheaper", as I can't remember everything that was said entirely, was that it's cheaper to get a Work Visa in-country as opposed to out of it.
Either way, like I said, I still don't like the whole Visa thing. I've been on these boards too much and too long not to find it fishy. It just sounds wrong to me, and if I was offered something, that aspect would keep me away from it, unless they go through more legal-sounding means...process the information for a regular Work Visa. I don't like the idea of coming over on a Tourist Visa and lying to immigration. It just sounds illegal to me, even though I do know that Change of Visa Status is common. Sucks US doesn't have Work Holiday (or whatever it's called) Visa.
I would like to see the Provisional Contract, though, that all accepted candidates are to receive. |
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Glenski
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, he said that candidates would be escorted there and helped out and all that. I think what he meant by "cheaper", as I can't remember everything that was said entirely, was that it's cheaper to get a Work Visa in-country as opposed to out of it. |
Unless you count the cost of airfare (which you'd pay anyway), I still disagree. How do you/he figure?
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| I don't like the idea of coming over on a Tourist Visa and lying to immigration. |
It's not really as bad as it sounds to tell immigration you are here as a tourist. The bigger problem is if you tell them you are here job hunting! Do that, and they will put you on the next plane back. |
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