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King Abdulaziz University in Jeddah
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Asda



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
^ Not in Jeddah it isn't! Sad


Ahhhh...but it has just rained!!! YIKES!! Shocked

As per usual, I need a canoe to get down my street...
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trapezius



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay rain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was with my family on Tahlia Street in a restaurant (dry when we went in), and when we were finished, the streets were flooded!

Too bad/sad the residents in the Southern and Eastern part will suffer again.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also been approached by King Abdulaziz University. If any who was worked there or knows anybody who has feel free to give me some insight. As far as what I've read this university seems to fit in between the lower and higher ranked university in KSA.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:40 am    Post subject: Ph.D. Reply with quote

Since I am interested in lifelonglearning, I would like to read for a doctoral degree on a part-time basis, while working at that university if possible. Has anyone done this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that you mean by distance or internet? Yes, I've known of many.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS

I think Susie means in situ at KAAU
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes... really? Never heard of anyone doing that in any of the Gulf countries. Have you?

I suspect that it wouldn't even be allowed at most government universities since most places restrict all of their spaces to nationals.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Ph.D. Reply with quote

Susie wrote:
Since I am interested in lifelonglearning, I would like to read for a doctoral degree on a part-time basis, while working at that university if possible. Has anyone done this?

If you will be working with KAAU you will be not allowed to register for part time PhD or for any other degree! In the Magic Kingdom foreigners are not allowed to register in the state universities. The only option for you is to do your PhD by online distance in your free time with any respected Western university.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt any "respected Western University" has distance PhD programs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Ph.D Reply with quote

Yes, my question relates to working full-time at KAAU and reading part-time for a doctoral degree there.

Do you know why the law would forbid foreign females from doing this (other than to ensure places for nationals)? Are there any exceptions to such a law if such a law exists?

Would there not be a question about distance-learning degrees or online degrees, in that, many employers don't recognize them?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot speak for KAAU, but at KFUPM there are foreign students, even on the Prerp Year programme. Faculty at KFUPM often enroll on the KFUPM MBA programme as part-time students That Numerical Ginger Tom is giving misleading information again.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Ph.D Reply with quote

Susie wrote:
Yes, my question relates to working full-time at KAAU and reading part-time for a doctoral degree there.
If I had to bet, I would say that it isn't possible. And if you are worried about an online/distance degree being recognized, you should be more worried about a PhD from a Saudi university being recognized anywhere outside of Saudi.

I have worked with a number of people who did distance PhD's through British universities where they spent much of their summer leave on campus there. In particular since British degrees seem to be pretty much just doing a thesis, distance or internet would seem no problem. They also had no problem getting jobs around the world with them. (of course, jobs are slim around the world right now wherever you got your PhD)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapezius wrote:
I doubt any "respected Western University" has distance PhD programs.

Online PhD Programs at:
Boston University.
University of London.
University of Wales.
The University of Nottingham.
To name few .....

http://onlinephduk.com/online-phd-uk-distance-phds-in-uk-universities/

Uncle Scott wrote:
Faculty at KFUPM often enroll on the KFUPM MBA programme as part-time students That Numerical Ginger Tom is giving misleading information again.

Well, the above program is specifically for Saudis, the foreign students get it through research assistant/associate fellowship provided by KFUPM or paid by private companies like SABIC or ARAMCO. In addition, if foreigner students are registered, they have to pay the fees, they will not get it free, and this is only with KFUPM (after some strong wasta) . But in general, foreigners are not allowed to register with state universities in the Magic Kingdom, I know a lot of friends form Arab countries could not register their children with state universities, including KFUPM, and they were obliged to sent them back home, or to another foreign country like Malaysia!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Tomcats Cannot Be Trusted Reply with quote

A friend at KFUPM has sent me this----------------------------------

http://www.kfupm.edu.sa/gs/admissions.htm


http://www.kfupm.edu.sa/kfupm/admissions/graduate.aspx

in particular this sentence

All applicants whose credentials meet stated minimum quantitative standards are considered for admission to Graduate Studies.


And this is for undergrad stdts

He must be a Saudi citizen, or a residence of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia having valid Iqama.

(I met a young Brazilian studying here on my Saudia flight last June)


Fees

In addition to the cost of books, all part-time graduate students pay a tuition fee of SR 150 per credit hour for the courses taken.


MBA

Admission Requirements for the Master of Business Administration Program. The minimum requirements for admission as a regular graduate student to the M.B.A. program are:

1. a baccalaureate degree (B.A. or B.S.) from an approved institution;

2. a Grade-Point Average (GPA) of 2.50 or higher on a 4.0 scale for university work taken previously. Official transcripts from each college and university the student has previously attended must be mailed directly from the registrar of that school to the College of Graduate Studies;

3. a satisfactory score in the Graduate Management Admission Test (GMAT, formerly ATGSB). The GMAT scores must be sent to the College;

4. satisfactorily meeting the University's language requirements;

5. satisfactorily meeting other general University requirements for admission.

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and my comment ? Do not trust Tomcats.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But... KFUPM is often rather an outlier in so many ways (usually in good ways) that this very well may not be the standard in all Saudi universities.

Assuming that "Susie" is female, her options may be even more limited...

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