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scooby doo · Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 48

Another disadvantage for employers is not being able to access previous applications after the payment period has expired. You have to reactivate the ad, paying another $100/month to gain complete access to something you have already paid for. In comparison, tefl.com allows full access to all the site's features for employers even after the ad expires (and they're cheaper).

I have a feeling this site is pretty good for teachers but less of a hit with employers..

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:33 am Post subject:

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

Lisa M · Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 18

Well certainly the features as I mentioned are far superior to...sorry to say this site where you just put your email on the job resume board and then have to do that again and again in which NOTHING is at all filtered, no panel to upload your information, and no filtering at all as to which countries you chose. You are asking ST to have so much filtering in which other sites do not even have any, so I do not understand why they in particular have to be to such a high standard in which you do not request of other sites.

Lisa M · Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 18

and Justin....that was one loose cannon in the years I have been on the site in which he was stopped within the hour!! That again is just silly that you would say...oh I might receive all these rogue emails from all these crazy people....come on.... I have received in the years hundreds of job emails and nothing like that has ever happened. You said yourself you cannot be in control of everyone and actually they did stop him immediately...that is why he reacted that way because he got caught. Pretty vigilent by Seriousteachers I would say. I could show you tons of websites, blogs etc. that say funky things about Daves site. There is a whole bunch of people on some ESL board that write stuff everyday about this site, does not mean it is true. Again you cannot say employers are not happy. This does not seem to be the case as there are a lot of people advertising with them. So that is obviously one opinion from a guy who was complaining that he received too many applicants?? You would think that is a good service. Your posts against their TEFL were regarding logos in which if you go around there are other TEFL using NAFTA etc. wrongly. It seemed that actually this was not misleading but a confused practice as members are not supposed to use their logo so therefore I would think that TEFL sites are just confused about this. Global TESOL for one uses it. Actually nobody is supposed to use their logos but many do. Your other complaint was that TEFL should not be taught online. Well almost every in-house company now is offering TEFL online so you are beginning to sound outdated and also you work for an in-house TEFL company which do not offer online so yes of course you obviously would take that route. I think it makes perfect sense that you cannot make an opinion about whether a job board is good at hiring or not until you try. Jumping out of a window, you know what will happen. The fact remains you have not used their site as a teacher, you have never paid for an advertisement as an employer as far as I can see, you have never taken their TEFL course (which I haven't either but my friend did and said it was great) so I think actually you are not being fair at all. Your other postings kind of show that you are suspicious of everything pretty much so I would have to say that is probably in your nature. Now I am sure I will get pummeled but that is pretty much the reality of blogging on this site with the regulars. So write what you will now because I don't feel like checking back again. Everything is going off on a tangent with misleading info. I don't know why I would get pummeled, just telling you my experience with Serious Teachers has been great and I have been hired twice and my employers were great but those main points were left behind. Let me tell you though, I have never seen a bad blog about Daves on ST. Think about that as far as business practices go. Again, use the site and see for yourself.

Lisa M · Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 18

I just saw Scooby Doo post. Yes, the payment is for a 1 month ad so therefore after 1 month it expires. I am trying for the life of me to understand why this is odd.

johnslat · Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject:

Dear Lisa M,

"Well almost every in-house company now is offering TEFL online so you are beginning to sound outdated and also you work for an in-house TEFL company which do not offer online so yes of course you obviously would take that route."

Are you (so to speak) SERIOUS?

A certificate one gets online without any classroom experience makes about as much sense as learning how to drive through a correspondence course.
There's a reason the vast majority of reputable employers place little or no weight upon such certificates: they're useless.

"Your other postings kind of show that you are suspicious of everything pretty much so I would have to say that is probably in your nature."

I've got to admit I'm suspicious, too - suspicious of one who spends so much time and energy (and so many run-on sentences) defending a site that she/he has no personal/financial involvement with.

Actually, being "suspicious" is a mandatory survival trait for a TEFLer.

Regards,
John

scooby doo · Joined: 30 Oct 2009 Posts: 48

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

I-ll say that while it's a good site, I-ve got a couple of complaints, first, I-m always receiving emails from them, . Second, the set up it so that you can-t see the date the job was posted. So you have no idea how old the jobs are. Third, I-ve posted a job, and they do want money. NO real free trial.

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:48 am Post subject:

Hi Everybody,

I was reading over this thread, and think I've said most of what I should. My opinions about SeriousTeachers are pretty clear to anyone reading this thread.

I would like to address a couple of points that came up in recent posts, though.

With respect, I don't feel this is the place to go into the old online TEFL course debate. We've done that in another place, ages ago, but it wasn't really what the OP started this thread about. Anybody wants to go into it, the other thread is still there, and I've pretty much said what I had to say.

I'll only add, since it was brought up here:

Sashadroogie · Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:50 am Post subject:

Dear Justin,

You do not sound out-dated.

S

Sashadroogie · Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:57 am Post subject:

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:41 am Post subject:

Rigid application of any rule will result in things being misspeled...

Wink

Justin

PS- Thanks SD

Lisa M · Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 18

Scooby Doo....why didn't you keep the emails of the teachers that replied to you? Justin...at the time you wrote the blog about TEFL you did work for an in-house TEFL company. What I can't understand is that if the original poster was happy with ST, why didn't he/she just email them and ask what is with that email he received from Jack Stone, instead of posting a such a damning title to this blog which is completing misleading on a competitors site even and extremely unfair to ST

Justin Trullinger · Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:13 am Post subject:

Relax Lisa M ! Smile

Seriously- this is why we call it a discussion forum. People discuss their views and experiences here.

About my experience:

Could you be a little more careful with your wording? I'm not hiding any connections. But consider this: