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Mr.Engrish
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spiral78 I found your comments quite condescending...
Anyways I took some Micky mouse online courses before I came to Poland, so i wouldn't say I came without knowing anything. I agree, I do need a celta, however, a celta does not make you a great teacher, its just another method. Within a year I plan to take the celta in Warsaw.
I teach at two schools at the moment, the director and staff say I do a great job.
You know quite well I was referring to privet lessons when I said 'privets'
I believe I'm doing a good job, since I'm not advertising and its just going by word of mouth.
why would I not be sure of my background?
My questions were pertaining to privet lessons and what materials you people use?
I don't teach at a Callan school, I got the books of someone who goes there. It's a great tool for conversation lessons.
anyways, thanks but no thanks spiral78, I will await further advice from others...
cheers
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spiral78
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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privet lessons when I said 'privets'
I think most of us teach private lessons on occasion.
Also, do keep in mind that if you're using Callan materials outside of a Callan school, you may be breaching their copywrite. You might not want to discuss that on a public forum like Dave's. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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Mickey Mouse course? No?
Sorry Mr Engrish, but it does sound like you have not received any training in language teaching. In fact, to be honest I thought you were winding posters up with the following
For example I'll start with nouns, explain what they are and give examples and usages for each, I have everything on my laptop and I make the students write everything down as I explain it to them so they understand...
Perhaps using a standard course book like English File or Cutting Edge would help you to structure your grammar presentations. Can only help... |
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justflyingin
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr.Engrish wrote: |
spiral78 I found your comments quite condescending...
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He just said what some of the rest of us were thinking. Your spelling has problems. On a forum such as this ....Teaching English, unless it is a typo (and they tend to be common errors such as inverted letters), it is best to not purposely leave out apostrophe markings and possessive markings and such. Private lessons are quite different from privets. I thought it was a joke at first but then I decided that you must not know how to spell that word. Since it isn't a very hard word, it does make a person wonder about your native speaker status.
Back to the point. I saw one time on a board...5 zl for 60 minutes. I thought it was ridiculous. I thought of you all and driving the price down. But who would use someone so cheap? I'd probably not go there simply because I'd wonder why he was so cheap.
I'm outside of Warsaw and make 40 zl/60 min. when I teach at an English school. I also get 40 zl for private lessons at home for one hour. It is not my primary source of income--if it were, I'd charge more. I do it mostly for the interaction with people who live around here and not to get rich. Plus, it feels like enough. People have to take a lot of lessons in order to get a sort of proficiency and I think that "enough is enough". If it were a class, it would be something else as it would require a lot more preparation and stress. Also, when I go to someone's house, I charge 50 zl for one hour--and will only travel to the immediate surrounding communities. People normally come to my house. This way I can schedule three lessons in three hours--back to back.
I prefer conversation lessons as I believe that most of the Polish English teachers can communicate the grammar (in Polish) better than I can. However, my (American) accent can't be beaten! 
While I am a trained teacher, I am not trained with CELTA or something like that. I like the New English File books and have used FCE books and CAE books as well. |
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Mr.Engrish
Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I shall look into those books I believe Warsaw would be the place to buy them? Can anyone recommend a good book store and its location? Also thanks for the callan advice, I'll toss the book a.s.a.p.
Yea I agree with you guys my spelling is horrendous today, thanks to a nasty little hang over  So I apologize on that aspect.
I'm no stranger to teaching people. My past job had me training and teaching groups people on a monthly biases .Those micky mouse courses I took weren't the greatest, but hey, every bit counts.
How much is the going rate for the celta in warsaw anyways?
back to the subject at hand...
I know the Polish people teaching English in this town charge 20-30pln/60
5pln/60 has to be some sort of joke, I would schedule a meeting with this individual to see what type of person would work for peanuts. I know there is a fellow teaching German around here who charges 40/60.
I agree with the American accent, I have one and I love it. Are Polish people more inclined to the American or British accent? |
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sharter
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:08 pm Post subject: erm |
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Polish chicks are inclined to the western wallet not the accent.
Seriously though-most of the exams Polish students take are Cambridge Suite plus IELTS making it all a very British affair old chap.
Oddly, Polish girls with American accents always seem to sound like Martina Navratilova. When they speak British English, they can sound like Nazis......or maybe that was just my ex-wife (shiver).
40Zl/hour for 1:1 lessons is way too cheap. I've charged up to 150 before.....and got it.
And go easy on the booze as many an EFL teacher has fallen fowl of the liquor. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Hic! Fallen fowl? Fallen fowl?! Fallen FOWL?! Whashever do ya mean hic?! |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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My past job had me training and teaching groups people on a monthly biases .
Elaboration, please? |
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PierogiMonster
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| spiral78 wrote: |
My past job had me training and teaching groups people on a monthly biases .
Elaboration, please? |
Well, one month he preferred to train them and the next month he preferred to teach them.  |
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Mr.Engrish
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't discuss personal matters on public forums spiral78, sorry old chap
I tend to only drink on Fridays and or Saturdays, so I wouldn't say I'm a booze hound just yet. I've recently started to play darts while at the pub, still not good but..... we all gotta start somewhere.
Keep in mind the rates for privates usually sinks lower and lower with smaller populations. If I charged 100+ here, I would have no business whatsoever.
As mentioned above, regarding the traveling distances to reach your clients. I will now only accept people that are willing to come over. With the time it takes to get from A-Z you could have easily fit in a lesson or two. |
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scottie1113
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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| sharter wrote: |
Polish chicks are inclined to the western wallet not the accent.
Seriously though-most of the exams Polish students take are Cambridge Suite plus IELTS making it all a very British affair old chap.
True, but you know that from FCE on up they can use either American or British English. The caveat is once they start with they have to stay consistent. No mixing. Since the great majority of my students used British texts in school, and since we use British books at my school, I suggest that they stay with British English, which is what I teach, just pointing out the differences when they crop up.
Oddly, Polish girls with American accents always seem to sound like Martina Navratilova. When they speak British English, they can sound like Nazis......or maybe that was just my ex-wife (shiver).
Interestingly enough, I have met very few Poles who speak with a British accent. It always sounds much more American to me. And of course we all know that an American accent sounds much better. Scottie now dons his flame retardant suit. Just winding you up, mates.
40Zl/hour for 1:1 lessons is way too cheap. I've charged up to 150 before.....and got it.
And go easy on the booze as many an EFL teacher has fallen fowl of the liquor. |
Uh, I believe it's "fallen afoul of". |
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Sashadroogie
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Or even just to fall foul of...
But the image of a deflowered pheasant or some other bird will long stay with me.... |
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sharter
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: erm |
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Yeah of course.....typing and thinking sometimes seem to clash. Bit anal to point something like that out tho'.
You need to get out more. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| I get out plenty, yet despite falling foul of the liquor I try not to let my typing clash with my thinking. By the way, I'm not the only one who pointed out your misspelling. I just turned it into a humorous aside. Nothing rectal there at all... |
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Mr.Engrish
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| How old are you guys? I imagine, for the grammar natzies at least, early 30's to early 40's? |
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