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Americans - what do you do about healthcare when you return?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sasha,

Blaming Noah would be to Noah Vale (or should that be Noah Val?)

Regards,
John
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Pronoun 'it' is usually a 'grammar word'. 'Id' isn't English (Latin for 'it') and is a modern scientific word to boot. Similarly, check out 'em' a specialised printing term. These are recent inventions and weren't around when the spelling system was evolving.


How does "id" not count? Not fair to say it's "not English." It may have a foreign origin, but that's true of -- how many other English words? It has been thoroughly adopted into English, and is a noun. Not sure what being a "modern scientific word" has to do with anything. It cannot be discounted。


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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
Pronoun 'it' is usually a 'grammar word'. 'Id' isn't English (Latin for 'it') and is a modern scientific word to boot. Similarly, check out 'em' a specialised printing term. These are recent inventions and weren't around when the spelling system was evolving.


How does "id" not count? Not fair to say it's "not English." It may have a foreign origin, but that's true of -- how many other English words? It has been thoroughly adopted into English, and is a noun. Not sure what being a "modrn scientific word" has to do with anything. It cannot be discounted。


Zero, I don't think Sasha meant that "id" doesn't count, in any way other than that it does not fit into the quoted spelling rule. ("only 'grammar words' are spelt with a single vowel followed by a consonant, e.g. at, in, on. 'Content words' do not do this. The only exception to this historically is 'ox', apart from the ill-advised aforementioned 'ax'.")

Just my interpretation! Smile
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, A Good Story, that is what I said. 'Id' cannot be held as an example of an English word which discredits the spelling rule. First, it is not English. Second its modern use in psychology post-dates the evolution of the rule mentioned, and so still would not undermine the truth of a rule that is centuries older. There are other neologisms too, mainly in the realm of science, but they too cannot be said to be evidence against the existence of an old spelling rule, precisely because they are neologisms. The only true exception to the rule that I know of is 'ox'.

Now, back to 'ax'. Americans used to use the 'axe' spelling too until Noah Webster decided to stick his oar (note the double vowel!) in and unwittingly display his ignorance of how English works. But that is no matter, as he called his language American... : ) But still, if you must take an axe and lop off branches of a structure, you need to be realise that all outgrowths have deeper roots than the transient politics of the day.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear Sasha,

Blaming Noah would be to Noah Vale (or should that be Noah Val?)

Regards,
John


Dear Johnslat

Poor puns are punishable by up to five years in the salt mines. No appeal. Unless of course I make them, hic!


Sasha
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some complaints have been received about this thread going off-topic and while some may find it hard to believe that such a thing is possible on this board, please try to reduce the Mod Team's workload and return to the topic m�s pronto.

If not, well, you know the drill.....

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notamiss



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qaaolchoura wrote:
Where are you in the country? As I understand it, Canadians treat anybody who comes into their hospitals, regardless of nationality. Fortunately I'm only 23, but if I were 26, uninsured, and it were really serious, I think I'd take a trip to Montreal or Toronto (both a seven-hour drive from my parents' and less than $100 each way by bus).
~Q


This had better not be left uncorrected, or someone might get a big disappointment following the above advice. Strictly speaking you're correct, but you left out the part that non-residents of Canada (irrespective of nationality) do have to pay for any health care received.

It isn't nationality, but residence that determines coverage.

Canadian residents are covered by the health insurance plan in their home province (the province where they officially reside), and if they require health care while outside their home province, they are usually covered through reciprocal billing agreements between the provincial health care plans. But non-residents of Canada aren't part of the plan and have to pay for health care.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway, with no ax to grind, I think that healthcare issues are an important part of life. I am glad I am living in a country with a high level of health care as opposed to places where I need to seek medical vacations as I don't trust the care granted where I'm working, whether paid for by my employer or not.

Surprisingly, in the US, technically they can not turn you away when seeking medical treatment even if you are without health insurance. In Japan you can get it in most cases, but it is more difficult without being on the national health plan. Makes life a little more difficult for visitors.
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maastricht



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay $70 per month for a high-deductible policy through BCBS tied to a HSA account. This is basically for catastrophic or semi-catastrophic events, as the deductible precludes using the insurance for routine problems. I *think* you can still get a tax deduction for contributions to the HSA until 2014 but please do your own research as I haven't been paying attention to US politics and law. You can go to ehealthinsurance.com or a similar website and compare policies.

For me personally, getting the tax deduction from the HSA was a good deal. If you can't use the tax deduction, you may want to look at other types of plans, such as short-term catastrophic.
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maastricht



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:

Surprisingly, in the US, technically they can not turn you away when seeking medical treatment even if you are without health insurance.


I think it is medical institutions with certain tax status that cannot turn you away. I want to say it is Sect. 501(c)(3) institutions but honestly I can't remember. They can't turn you away but they can send you a massive bill.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the main reasons that I am terrified to repatriate in the U.S is due to health care and of course- I love having more than 2 weeks vacation! So I think I will stay in Europe!
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Woodman09



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Americans - what do you do about healthcare when you ret Reply with quote

TheGoldenKiwi wrote:
I'm 25 now having just finished a year in Korea, if I do another year abroad by the time I come back to the US I'll be 26 and no longer covered by my mom's healthcare plan provided by her employer. I was thinking about doing ESL teaching abroad the next 3-5 years and hopefully by then the economy here won't be as bad as it is now, but any recommendations for the time I do spend in the US in between jobs?



Hey-- I have used short term medical coverage before -- Also there is always the public option--

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicaid

Never really needed the short term insurance-- but Medicaid Saved me when I was younger in a motorcycle wreck-- Paid 30 grand in bills --
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Zero



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a few years of full-time service with any private sector or government employer, and you'll get more than two weeks of vacation. A lot of people I know have trouble using all of their vacation, and end up losing some of it, or being forced to take days off before year's end.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been a huge issue for me recently. As part of a visa proccess I have been asked to get a HIV test (just completed) and because I do not have health insurance this meant a lot of calling around getting price quotes. There are a lot of places where a person can get a free or reduced test but try asking for paperwork than an embassy will accept...and suddenly you become some sort of elitist.

Evil or Very Mad Rolling Eyes
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear sohniye,

Just a suggestion - and I'm not sure it would work for you - but have you thought about giving blood? You need to have your blood tested for that, and you could probably get them to sign the paperwork.

Regards,
John
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