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Sashadroogie · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:09 pm Post subject:

I'm still waiting for Teacheratlargealways to come back and tell us that too. Suspense is killing me.

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Sasha,
You say you are in Moscow now, so why don't you provide the info that bulgogiboy is requesting?

johnslat · Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject:

Dear Glenski,

I'd probably be misleading since Sasha must spend at least 75% of his salary on vodka Very Happy

Regards,
John

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

bulgogiboy · Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 803

Sashadroogie · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:52 am Post subject:

Sashadroogie · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:53 am Post subject:

Glenski · Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

Sashadroogie · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:05 am Post subject:

Pounce is not a nice word Glenski. Please don't ascribe your notions to my posts. That isn't nice either.

Yes, it is my call to contribute - you are right there. However, as Teacheratlarge is the one claiming that Moscow salaries are X value, without providing anything other than miscellaneous ex-pat forums and newspaper articles to support his claim, not to mention putting words in my mouth about costs of living, I think it is entirely reasonable of me to wait for his reply to my repeated requests to show why he thinks that income is so low here. If he can, he will.

True I can 'head him off at the pass'. OK, then, I'll offer a little help. I'll bet he is making the same error as in the past, and is assuming that universities are the only places to work to make a respectable living. This may very well be true in Japan, but nothing could be further from the truth here. Universities are among the bottom payers for foreigners, and not much better for Russians, though they at least get all the local benefits.

The reason I am waiting for his reply is that it is only fair to allow him to explain where from he got these misguided notions. I don't think he has checked his facts, but when he does, he may be surprised that the difference in earning potential is not as great as he seems to think. Other posters have gloated about their high salaries in the past, only to be surprised that Moscow can offer a good living also, but without the restrictions imposed in the Gulf.

This of course is besides the point that many such posters seem to equate a 'university salary' with being successful TEFL teachers academically. Again, nothing like that seems to be the case at all.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

I sometimes post general information about salaries in the regions where I work, but first, by no means would I ever give actual figures earned by myself or people I know. That's absolutely private information.

Secondly, there is a huge distinction between the wages earned by a newbie to the region (and by this I mean someone who has spent just one or two years in any given place; this is not about qualifications) and someone who is established, speaks the local language, has local connections, and has built a local reputation.

I also am curious as to the source of anyone's comparison unless said poster has worked in both locations. Even then, figures cited would be limited to one person's experience/knowledge and not widely generalisable.

creeper1 · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject:

[quote="spiral78"]I sometimes post general information about salaries in the regions where I work, but first, by no means would I ever give actual figures earned by myself or people I know. That's absolutely private information.

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You seriously think that "Spiral 78" and a pictue of a dog reveals your identity?

It would be an annoymous declaration of earnings.

johnslat · Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:21 pm Post subject:

Dear creeper1.

Maybe you don't know who spiral78 (the one with the schnauzer) is, but others do, including, I would suspect, some of his co-workers.

And that's not even counting the Mods.

I think it would be best to leave it up to a poster as to whether or not any posting he/she might make would be truly anonymous.

Regards,
John

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Dear creeper1:

If you cared enough to read through my thousands of posts (not even my mother cares that much!!), you'd learn that, back in 1998, under a different avatar, I picked up a particularly creepy stalker from Dave's (no fault of the forum!). This ended in actual police action when this person was spotted outside my home - about 1,000 miles from his home.

Further, Johnslat is absolutely correct; people who do know 'you' (and me) are easily able to recognise a poster.

Ultimately, I know for a fact that on at least a couple of occasions, posters here have gotten or not gotten jobs based partially on their input on the boards, even though they post 'anonymously.' Most of us do write about our experience and qualifications, and most of us are identifiable to some degree.

That's a strong argument for civility - and proper spelling and grammar Very Happy

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Best,
spiral