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TokyoLiz
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Rslrunner,
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| Just don't seek to control others as a way of life. |
You look like you are having control issues. Consider getting counseling. Sessions with a priest, pastor, rabbi, psychologist can really help you sort out priorities and identify good and bad habits of mind.
Meditation and prayer help, too. There are lots of online guided meditations, mantras, prayers. |
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moviefan1987
Joined: 23 Nov 2015
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| This is a 21 page thread started two years ago by a guy who never worked for AEON. Dude, seriously, move on. See a counselor or something. Eventually you just have to get over it. Some people will work for AEON regardless of how bad you say it is. It's a typical chain eikaiwa. But then most of those people will quit, go back to their home countries, or find something better. Working for a chain eikaiwa is not as traumatic or even close to the same thing as working in a coal mine. Sorry you had a bad experience but sometimes you just have to let go. |
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rslrunner
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Rslrunner,
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| Just don't seek to control others as a way of life. |
You look like you are having control issues. Consider getting counseling. Sessions with a priest, pastor, rabbi, psychologist can really help you sort out priorities and identify good and bad habits of mind.
Meditation and prayer help, too. There are lots of online guided meditations, mantras, prayers. |
OK, I'll bite......
What are the specific control issues that I seem to have, from your point of view?
What should my priorities be?
What is a good habit for a mind to have? What is a bad habit for a mind to have? How can we objectively classify an inherently subjective judgment?
Do you come to help me, or are you looking to control me by first pointing out what is wrong with me?
By the way, I am agnostic/atheist, so a pastor/priest/rabbi would be a tough sell, as endearing as these figures may be personally.
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rslrunner
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| moviefan1987 wrote: |
| This is a 21 page thread started two years ago by a guy who never worked for AEON. Dude, seriously, move on. See a counselor or something. Eventually you just have to get over it. Some people will work for AEON regardless of how bad you say it is. It's a typical chain eikaiwa. But then most of those people will quit, go back to their home countries, or find something better. Working for a chain eikaiwa is not as traumatic or even close to the same thing as working in a coal mine. Sorry you had a bad experience but sometimes you just have to let go. |
1. I didn't create this thread for my personal benefit alone. I created it so that people know what to expect in terms of the inevitable behavior modification that will occur. I seriously believe this, very strongly and very deeply.
2. I never thought that Aeon would somehow disappear or people would stop working for them. That's not the goal. The goal is to let others anyone considering this course of action in their career to understand that their success depends upon mimicking a persona that does not belong to them. Then people can make an independent choice.
3. I would never compare the job to a coal mine, or a Bangladeshi textile factory. I do compare the organization to a cult. That's because you have to be someone different from who you really are, and this is key, you are not told beforehand what you will become. This is not a healthy place for many people to be.
4. I have moved beyond my personal perspective quite a while ago. I see a power arrangement that benefits the company to the immediate detriment of new hires. By posting all of this, I put the company on the defensive, and inform and empower the people who have decided to choose to work for this company, or go elsewhere.
I have demystified the initial training week. I have pointed out the reality of the schedule. I have called into question the methods utilized to mold people into something different from who they are. I believe, in my heart of hearts, that this makes every potential applicant better off, because now there is a dissenting perspective to counteract the groupthink that prevails from the first interview. People can decide for themselves how to proceed.
5. Again, I have no problem if anyone wants to "commander" this thread. I was aware that this happened a while ago. What I find objectionable was Marley's Ghost's proclamation that people should not talk about the original thread, but instead only talk about what Marley's Ghost wants to talk about. That is simply not his place. He is not the arbiter of this forum, just like I am not. (Yes, I am saying that Marley's Ghost has the issues with control, not me.)
6. I did work for Aeon. For about 3.2 days. In fact, and I say this with some bemusement, I may have been one of the worst employees in its history. (Although I committed no crime of any kind, and certainly no serious crime that hurt others, so that would make others worse.)
7. If someone at Dave's ESL Cafe contacts me directly and says that something that I have said is objectionable, then I'll stop. But I haven't said anything objectionable that needs to be deleted, in my view. It is easy to differentiate between specific facts and my personal opinion. I am willing to take criticism. And, let's face it, this is a pretty interesting thread.
I have said all of this before. You can take me at my word with everything I have said above. Or you can proclaim what my motives are, even when I state that they are something different. It's your choice.
I am as much a member of this forum as anyone else. Not more, not less..... |
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dove
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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Location: USA/Japan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Why am I responding? Why?
Rslrunner, your purpose with this thread is to warn potential AEON applicants that they might be expected to become someone different than they really are? Child, please. You might as well warn everyone who is applying to any job at any corporation. Have you actually been in the work world? Ok, I admit I have been around the block and I am jaded as hell, but almost every job I have ever held, I had to adapt a persona. That persona is called worker. Because if I had my way, I'd be home in bed with the remote, Netflix, rum raisin Haagen Daaz. Next best thing would be at the bar, rolling my eyes at the managers who believe the corporate BS spiel, drowning my sorrows that I have to pretend to believe the spiel. Because that is what people who need a paycheck do. We pretend. If you want to call it a cult, whatevs. I--and most likely millions all over the world--will just call it work. |
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TokyoLiz
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| What is a good habit for a mind to have? What is a bad habit for a mind to have? How can we objectively classify an inherently subjective judgment? |
Work that one out with a counselor.
A 21 page, 2 year rant from a person who didn't last a week at the job.... Looks like a habit.... |
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rslrunner
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| TokyoLiz wrote: |
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| What is a good habit for a mind to have? What is a bad habit for a mind to have? How can we objectively classify an inherently subjective judgment? |
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