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notamiss
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| True. In addition, most of them don't have the money and cannot borrow the money to build everything all at once, so they just do what they can a little at a time when they have some money. |
There is not a tradition of mortgages in Mexico. Building one step at a time, and living in the finished rooms while you work on the rest of the house bit by bit as you save up the money is the normal, traditional way to build, even in the middle class�all my in-laws built their houses like this. |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| notamiss wrote: |
| jillford64 wrote: |
| True. In addition, most of them don't have the money and cannot borrow the money to build everything all at once, so they just do what they can a little at a time when they have some money. |
There is not a tradition of mortgages in Mexico. Building one step at a time, and living in the finished rooms while you work on the rest of the house bit by bit as you save up the money is the normal, traditional way to build, even in the middle class—all my in-laws built their houses like this. |
Hence, all those abandoned shells of houses you see in the provinces! |
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Samantha
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Location: Mexican Riviera
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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They aren't always abandoned.  They are works in progress! If there are no weddings, funerals, or Quincea�eras in the meantime, it progresses more quickly. Major work on homes seems to take place at Christmas season in our neighborhood. |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Samantha wrote: |
| They aren't always abandoned. They are works in progress! If there are no weddings, funerals, or Quincea�eras in the meantime, it progresses more quickly. Major work on homes seems to take place at Christmas season in our neighborhood. |
That's true! We have a "work in progress" at this moment in Chavinda, Michoac�n. But many seem to have a jungle growing inside them, so there must be a lot of marriages, funerals and 15 a�os!  |
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leslie
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bye
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Milenka
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| notamiss wrote: |
| jillford64 wrote: |
| True. In addition, most of them don't have the money and cannot borrow the money to build everything all at once, so they just do what they can a little at a time when they have some money. |
There is not a tradition of mortgages in Mexico. Building one step at a time, and living in the finished rooms while you work on the rest of the house bit by bit as you save up the money is the normal, traditional way to build, even in the middle class�all my in-laws built their houses like this. |
This is, again, another issue closely related to social class. There is a tradition of mortgages in the middle-upper class, many young couples get a 30-year mortgage, it's how real estate agents get people to actually buy houses and apartments. In the upper class people usually buy up front and use a mortgage to buy a second property (beach/campo weekend home/condo). |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Brand new books from Gandhi still in the plastic. |
Why? I don't remember this happening in England. If you are looking for, particulary, a non-fiction book, something you need for instruction, how annoying that you can't browse the book first to see if it's what you're really looking for. |
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El Gallo
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Why do Mexican employers and renters get indignant when you want to be paid on time?
I've encountered both a school owner and a renter who say gringos are terrible people because they demand to be paid at the time promised (especially if they have been ma�ana-ed or next Tuesday-ed a couple of times already). Their retort is always the Mexicans don't seem to mind waiting for their pay, why is this a big deal with the ungrateful gringos? |
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MO39
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| El Gallo wrote: |
Why do Mexican employers and renters get indignant when you want to be paid on time?
I've encountered both a school owner and a renter who say gringos are terrible people because they demand to be paid at the time promised (especially if they have been ma�ana-ed or next Tuesday-ed a couple of times already). Their retort is always the Mexicans don't seem to mind waiting for their pay, why is this a big deal with the ungrateful gringos? |
I think that Mexicans do mind waiting for their pay or rent, but it's considered a cultural faux pas to complain about it. |
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notamiss
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| Phil_K wrote: |
Quote from another thread:
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| Brand new books from Gandhi still in the plastic. |
Why? I don't remember this happening in England. If you are looking for, particulary, a non-fiction book, something you need for instruction, how annoying that you can't browse the book first to see if it's what you're really looking for. |
On the few occasions I requested to open the plastic and inspect the book, I've never been denied. It's worth asking.
On the other hand, I recall being told off elsewhere (not Mexico) for browsing the magazines in a shop, which made me nostalgic for Sanborn's. |
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that Mexicans do mind waiting for their pay or rent, but it's considered a cultural faux pas to complain about it. |
That's why many things don't change in Mexico, because people are too tolerant! |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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<ring ring>
Bueno?
A donde hablo?
grr...
Why? |
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MO39
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil_K wrote: |
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| I think that Mexicans do mind waiting for their pay or rent, but it's considered a cultural faux pas to complain about it. |
That's why many things don't change in Mexico, because people are too tolerant! |
Maybe the next Mexican Revolution will take place when the tolerant Mexican population just can't take it anymore and decides to take drastic steps to change things, hopefully for the better! |
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Milenka
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
<ring ring>
Bueno?
A donde hablo?
grr...
Why? |
I HATE that too  . The best answer is: A donde marcaste (, buey). Sometimes I reply with another question: �Con qui�n quiere hablar? If they insist with the silly question, I go Si no sabe qu� n�mero marc�, no puedo ayudarle. Chau.
BTW, ad�nde, adonde and a donde are todo un arte in written Spanish (and an obscure science for most native speakers): http://cvc.cervantes.es/alhabla/museo_horrores/museo_063.htm |
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El Gallo
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Most of my phone answering in Chiapas goes like this:
A. (yo) Bueno?
B. Bueno?
A. Bueno?
B. BUENO?!!!!!
A. Quien Habla, por favor?
B. Quien Habla?
A. Quien Habla?
B. QUEIN HABLA?!!!
A. (click)
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