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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case you didn't notice, "Africans" is different from "African-Americans."

DUH!!!!

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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Africans ? What about all those European who have been showing up as illegal immigrants since the 16th Century ? Time for the Apache, Navaho et al to get their act together and deport all those illegals and their descendants.

(NOTE IRONY ALERY. FAILURE TO READ THIS MAY RESULT IN HEIGHTENED BLOOD PRESSURE !)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:39 pm    Post subject: Deport 'em all! Reply with quote

The thought of the Covenanters' descendants flooding the mother land is most worrying.
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steki47



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buravirgil,
Thank you for your lengthy list of links. In response:
This report sums up many of the crime-related issues we have discussed.
http://www.colorofcrime.com/2005/10/the-color-of-crime-2005/

Mainly, police are NOT biased against Blacks but rather crime rates follow a very consistent pattern: Black>Hispanic>White>Asian.

I would also recommend reading up racial differences in levels of testosterone (highly correlated with aggression) and intelligence (highly correlation with education, professional level, home ownership, etc). Much of the differences you have mentioned can be explained by these measurements.

Interesting tangent. Thanks!
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read the references section of this "report"? Have you sourced any criticism of it online?

Spot any flags?
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steki47



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buravirgil wrote:
Have you read the references section of this "report"? Have you sourced any criticism of it online?

Spot any flags?


Yes, I have. I Googled "Color of Crime Debunked" and the first two hits were from the SPLC ( a dodgy organization) and Tim Wise (quite vicious anti-White "anti-racist" activist).

Much of the FBI/DOJ data I have seen backs up CofC.
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try simple criticism...debunked indicates advocacy.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No racism in the US?

Strange that 6 predominantly black churches have burned in and around Ferguson recently, then Rolling Eyes Maybe black churches tend to spontaneous combustion, just like Blacks evidently tend to lower intelligence and higher testosterone - according to steki, anyway.

https://www.rt.com/usa/319124-black-church-fires-ferguson/
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's an interesting and, I'd say, well-reasoned article. One thing it points out is that racism and prejudice are not the same.

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/reverse-racism-doesnt-exist/

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John
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steki47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
No racism in the US?

Strange that 6 predominantly black churches have burned in and around Ferguson recently, then Rolling Eyes https://www.rt.com/usa/319124-black-church-fires-ferguson/


No suspect yet?

There is a pattern of fake hate crimes whereby people claim they were attacked by "racists", hang a noose somewhere and call the police, etc.

Wait and see on this one.
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

steki47 wrote:
spiral78 wrote:
No racism in the US?

Strange that 6 predominantly black churches have burned in and around Ferguson recently, then Rolling Eyes https://www.rt.com/usa/319124-black-church-fires-ferguson/


No suspect yet?

There is a pattern of fake hate crimes whereby people claim they were attacked by "racists", hang a noose somewhere and call the police, etc.

Wait and see on this one.


I can't follow your thinking. You seem to be suggesting that people would burn down their own churches so that . . . what? The misguided among us will see them as victims of hate crimes? You believe people are faking beatings and attacks because . . .because. . .? They just really feel the need to perpetuate the myth that racism still exists in the US? They have too much testosterone? Sorry--this isn't making any sense to me. Shocked
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all rhetoric from a hundred years ago. Blacks have higher testosterone levels, lower intelligence??

And now, they burn their own churches and, fantastically, somehow force innocent police officers to shoot them dead on video, even when the blacks are entirely unarmed and walking away from the cops with their backs turned?
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steki47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AGoodStory wrote:


I can't follow your thinking. You seem to be suggesting that people would burn down their own churches so that . . . what? The misguided among us will see them as victims of hate crimes? You believe people are faking beatings and attacks because . . .because. . .? They just really feel the need to perpetuate the myth that racism still exists in the US? They have too much testosterone? Sorry--this isn't making any sense to me. Shocked


There have been numerous incidents in which people claimed they were attacked for their race or sexual orientation and later it was revealed that the individuals faked the attacks/lied. Looking for attention and sympathy? Creepy stuff, to be sure.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/fake-hate-crime/
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steki47



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
This is all rhetoric from a hundred years ago. Blacks have higher testosterone levels, lower intelligence??


100 years ago? No way. The APA has been examining the race&IQ issue since the 1990s. Rushton and Jensen (2010!) examined the data as well. Highly controversial topic, obviously.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Hitler's "scientists" claimed the Jews were "sub-human"

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007057

Research is so much easier when you know beforehand the results that you want to get.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_dilettante/2007/12/dissecting_the_iq_debate.html

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John
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