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AmericanAmina
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I know! I really expected to see more employers. Maybe there will be more at the actual event? And how did China sneak one in there?  |
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danshengou
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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A sign of the times |
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siologen

Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:11 pm Post subject: re: hmmmm |
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An ominous sign, but that is just me! |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I have a friend in Saudi who used to work at PNU and still has connections there. She was hired through a contractor, and she advises that you only go direct hire. Skip all contractors. |
Which dubious companies are still contracted with PNU? The university is huge and generally needs several hundred English PY teachers. It's doubtful they'll fill the majority of their positions with direct hires. |
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AmericanAmina
Joined: 15 Dec 2015 Posts: 104 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I interviewed with PNU today at the TESOL Arabia job fair. They told me they have almost 300 instructors in their English department alone. I didn't realize how huge this university actually is. They have 49,000 students. That's almost double the population of my hometown in Arkansas. So, yes, it's likely that some of their hiring is still done through contractors. But it's better for teachers to get their position by direct hire.
Btw, I posted a long (looooooooooooong) description of the job fair over on the UAE forum, since that's where the conference is taking place. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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AmericanAmina wrote: |
I didn't realize how huge this university actually is. They have 49,000 students. That's almost double the population of my hometown in Arkansas. |
I'm glad you were able to snag an interview.
PNU is "yuuuuge!" It's the world's largest women's university at a whopping 30 million square feet (nearly 10 million sq meters). |
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siologen

Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:14 am Post subject: re: golf karts? |
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It's the world's largest women's university at a whopping 30 million square feet (nearly 10 million sq meters). |
I recall at one uni in China, they actually had golf carts to get about, it was a spread out campus, would take about half an hours walk just to get off campus into an adjoining village. How on earth does one navigate that place, assuming there are no closed walkways with A/C, walking would not be an option in the heat surely? |
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AmericanAmina
Joined: 15 Dec 2015 Posts: 104 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Good question. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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AmericanAmina wrote: |
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How on earth does one navigate that place, assuming there are no closed walkways with A/C, walking would not be an option in the heat surely? |
Good question. |
I'm surprised that you didn't visit PNU's website prior to your interview. Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTUzhfJE4UU.
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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A massive campus that appears to be totally devoid of humans.
I've never heard Rahman pronounced consistently with 3 syllables. LOL It sounded like a computer voice.
Does the library have any books? None were shown...
Nice monorail system. Note that the walkways are all covered. (same at SQU in Oman)
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
A massive campus that appears to be totally devoid of humans.
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Does the library have any books? None were shown... |
The maktaba: http://www.pnu.edu.sa/en/Libraries/Pages/Central-Library.aspx and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7XU5SzEu-o
The absence of female students and faculty in that promotional video isn't unusual. It reflects KSA's conservative culture, and the women would all have to be covered in order to be filmed inside the facilities. |
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veiledsentiments

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yes obviously... but it still made me laugh out loud. Like the rapture had arrived and everyone passed muster.
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AmericanAmina
Joined: 15 Dec 2015 Posts: 104 Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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That campus is gorgeous. Truly. I hadn't watched any videos before. |
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siologen

Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:31 am Post subject: re: light rail/tram system.... |
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That place is immense. Bigger than some towns in the UK it would seem! Can't begin to even the imagine the logistics of keeping a place like that ticking over, must have it's own substation/gennies and sewage plant for starters I would reckon, as well as a water source. |
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KME0050
Joined: 02 Jun 2010 Posts: 87 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Like nearly every other place in the Kingdom, what you see in pictures and videos of PNU is only an superficial approximation of what you get on the ground. The truth is, that while the university is nearly new, it was hastily constructed and no thought was given to maintenance. What matters are appearances, at least initially. Thereafter, not even that matters. As a result:
--A beautiful long corridor of huge mature palm trees (hundreds) that ran down the center of the campus came crashing down one tree at a time as a result of neglect and then later, total abandonment. There was once a huge palm tree graveyard where the dead trees were dragged. They were replaced with some anemic-looking scrubby little trees. Don't know if they are still living.
--Classrooms are equipped with e-podiums, smart boards, projectors and just about anything else a tech-savvy teacher could want, except that they seldom work and very few women on the campus are equipped with the skills (or will) to repair them.
--Every clock in every building in the university reads 12:00. Forever. They hang very high on the walls and the time was never set.
--Escalators sometimes work and sometimes don't. Repair can take weeks.
--the campus is dotted with what should be beautiful fountains, except that they've never contained water and are all crumbling down and beyond repair.
--As soon as two years after the university was constructed, the sidewalks started to crack, crumble, and cave into the earth. Paving over sand appears to have it's challenges.
--The monorail frequently gets stuck--up high in the blistering sky and packed with hundreds of girls.
--At the time when I was there, you could count on one hand the number of books in the beautiful library.
--Despite the apparent vastness of the university, there was never, ever, ever adequate classroom space. It was not unusual to pack 60 girls into a classroom build for 30 or 40.
On its website, PNU looks spectacular, on the ground, what you see is neglect, disrepair, and some rather horrific results of poor planning . . . . |
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