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Mr.Kevin



Joined: 23 Oct 2003
Posts: 38
Location: Changsha

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about anyone else, but I've never had any intentions of being a teacher in Canada. That is probably the last place I see myself. Some people on here sound like posers, eagerly ready to out-type others with their perfect grammar and syntax. Good thing this isn't voice chat. I admit my grammar and syntax sucks, I just didn't know this was an essay contest. China is just a good country to get the real joys of teaching people something they want to learn, with the added benifits of a free trip, Aeroplan miles, and cheap DVDs.
Hey beck, what were you doing when you were 19? I wont bash you too much in fear you might have a heart attack. The only teachers I have met out here were either fresh or retired. Come back to me with grammar and syntax mistakes, you obviously did a bad job in the first place.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 4946
Location: Blabbing

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long ai gu wrote:
Great Wall of Whiner, you don't need a degree to teach legally in China, you are simply wrong.


That's absolutely funny that you post something without offering any evidence to back it up.

I, on the other hand will.

http://www.esl-lounge.com/teflguide/china2.shtml

You need at least a degree or teaching diploma. Experience/qualifications in TEFL are a bonus but you'll land a job without them. Your school should arrange work visa, medical exam etc.

http://www.transitionsabroad.com/listings/work/esl/articles/workinasia.shtml

Requirements for teaching posts in China are not always stringent: a university degree is often sufficient and teaching experience counts for more than formal training.

Also, you might want to actually talk to people who have been here long enough to know fact versus fiction.

Yes, you can easily work safely in China without a degree. I never said "you can't work in China as a teacher withotu a degree".

What I said was "It is the official law of China" that we must have a degree.

Desperate schools and schools with guanxi and/or lots of money can easily get around that law.
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tradinup



Joined: 13 Nov 2004
Posts: 132
Location: Shenzhen, China

PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's good to have a few voices of reason around here...
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TEAM_PAPUA



Joined: 24 May 2004
Posts: 1679
Location: HOLE

PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:43 am    Post subject: * Reply with quote

Two schools of thought:

One - I have a Degree, so those with Degrees are better prepared to enter a classroom & teach (logical & obvious)

Two - I don't have a Degree but my students think I'm the "Princess' Panties"

IMO it's better to be educated before educating others. How do you answer your students' questions concerning university education (those wishing to study overseas) when you were educated in Mcdonalds?
Students may think you are funny & friendly, but I can assure you that Chinese students respect qualifications & experience more than the ability to make them laugh.

BTW Whiner is correct in saying you need a Degree to work legally in China. To bypass this, the schools simply create Degrees for teachers. Hopefully China will soon adopt practices from Japan & Korea, where Degrees are checked & validated before being accepted. Only then will the level of instruction of English improve in China, and as a consequence salaries may also increase.

Also, think about the quality of the schools which are recruiting all these undereducated 'so-called' teachers. The better the school the better the expectation regarding their teachers, the better their overall reputation.

Requirements:

ex.1: University Degree - CELTA/Trinity - 2 years post-certificate overseas teaching experience.

ex.2: Must have a sense of humour *

T_P Cool


*If you don't have a Degree from a recognised University, you are not qualified to read the above (assuming that you can read it) Laughing
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sposieng



Joined: 06 Nov 2004
Posts: 7
Location: golfing

PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xiantao, Hubei. West of Wuhan, 1 1/2 to 2 hour bus ride, about half way between Yichang and Wuhan.
It is located in the river valley, do not expect a varied landscape.
Small city, not very sophisticated but not without some charm.
I spent my first year there at another school. You can live comfortably spending 800 RMB a month. The college is on the outskirts of town, get a bicycle. The college and the people are alright but they may try to do some things to you, keep your passport, restrict your freedom, etc. One 3 - star hotel downtown with a disco and lounge, a couple of smaller bars.
Drop the attitude or you will have many problems in Xiantao, guaranteed. Over the years a few FT's have pulled runners from other schools.
My attitude was - Its a s***hole but its my s***hole. Very hot in the summer so get away during the vacation. Develop selective hearing.
You will see and learn many things in Xiantao and if you can, the surrounding areas.
I do carry fond memories of Xiantao and the people.
If you take a bus to Wuhan, make sure you get the right bus to the section of Wuhan you want go to.

As for degree or no degree, I have a simple attitude - the only bad teacher is one who does not try. I still remember and practice what an old prof. told me - If you cannot present your topic so that a 5 year old child can understand, then you do not understand your topic.

If you go to Xiantao - enjoy it, warts and all.
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