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danielita
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| cangringo wrote: |
| Ah but see I have cheddar and real milk so now I am thinking we shouldn't get out of Monterrey. |
Yes, but if you have cheddar, you don't have to improvise or try other yummy cheeses like manchego, quesillo and oaxaque�a to fill the void. UHT milk has come a long way and it isn't as nasty as it used to be. Plus, when your only choice is UHT, it turns out to be pretty darn good stuff!
Speaking of improvising.... any thoughts for a good replacement for feta cheese?? |
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cangringo
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well honestly we didn't know we had cheddar here until a month ago and they still sell out sometimes so we never know for sure. We have tried Oaxaca, Manchego and a few others. My fave is the Manchego...
As for the milk, I drink at least a litre a day so no worries on it going bad although I know what you mean because we buy our crema acidificada in small containers for that reason. I didn't even know cheez whiz could go bad until we came here. I don't consider it real milk because I am a connoisseur.
Oh well, when I get to a place where we have no choice I will have to deal with it. For now - real milk. |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's real milk. The difference is the packaging. Dig around in this site and check out the product line and packaging pictures. Scroll down then hit the nutritional information under each picture. We buy Lala, but there are many others.
http://www.lala.com.mx/index2.htm |
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MamaOaxaca
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| danielita wrote: |
| Speaking of improvising.... any thoughts for a good replacement for feta cheese?? |
Danielita,
Start asking around for Queso de Cabra there's bound to be a village in the Ismto that makes it, though be it in small quantities. Also some of the stronger queso frescas might work. Look for a wondering women at your local market selling it from baskets/buckets rather than in the shops, their cheeses tend to have more character than the ones in the shops, especially if they come wrapped in a corn husk or other leaf of some kind. Always ask for a sample before buying, and if you find one you like don't worry, the women will remember you and come back to you to sell her cheese, you won't have to try to remember who sold it to you!
And if anyone of you cares, Lala has a really nasty record on water rights-conservation. I try not to buy their products and choose Alpura instead. Besides Alpura makes the yummiest yogurt (the C-real line). |
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cangringo
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| Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ok didn't mean to start a milk debate but...
I meant that it tastes like canned milk...yes I did try our roommates yucky stuff so that's what I mean by real milk. I mean I like canned milk in my coffee and it's probably fine on cereal but to drink - it's just not the same.  |
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ls650
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Location: British Columbia
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| MamaOaxaca wrote: |
| And if anyone of you cares, Lala has a really nasty record on water rights-conservation. I try not to buy their products and choose Alpura instead. |
Geez, I could never be bothered to remember that. This brand is bad for water rights conservation, that one gives hormones to their animals, etc. I suspect if you checked into the background of every dairy product company one can find something objectionable.
I just buy whatever happens to be closest when I'm looking at the shopping list!  |
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cangringo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: |
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we buy what's at the store next door...man I love having a store next door...that sells beer...
and tamales... |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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| Chihuahua cheese gets my vote...good replacement for Edam or Gouda. I can't think of something to replace Feta, which is also hard to find around here. |
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chola
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: napalitos y quesitos |
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Man, I wish I could remember the name of that white, crumbly, salty cheese I used to get at the market, it wasn't feta, but it was a fairly good substitute.(You can get feta at the Super G, at least in Guad...it wasn't a really good Greek or Balkan style feta but not bad.) Good luck in all your food/cheese quests. Salsa made with nopales is fantastic....great on top of a fresh, hot, super riciquissima gordita.  |
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MamaOaxaca
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Location: Mixteca, Oaxaca
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: napalitos y quesitos |
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| chola wrote: |
| Man, I wish I could remember the name of that white, crumbly, salty cheese I used to get at the market, it wasn't feta, but it was a fairly good. |
It's simple called Queso Fresco, or at least here in Oaxaca and in Michoacan is it. Sometimes it's even made from Goat's milk and then it's called Queso de Cabra. I think that most people who stick to shopping at Gigante and the like miss out on that kind of cheese, which is usually locally made and not sold in those big stores. Also, if possible never buy Queso Oaxaca(aka quesillo) at the big stores. I don't know what that stuff is, but it ain't queso Oaxaca that's for sure! |
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Guy Courchesne
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, if possible never buy Queso Oaxaca(aka quesillo) at the big stores. I don't know what that stuff is, but it ain't queso Oaxaca that's for sure! |
Ditto. Labels like La-La and Volcan sell it...may as well be eating the weatherstripping off the windows 'cause it tastes about the same. I look to the little neighborhood markets for fresh fresh fresh Oaxaca cheese. It needs to be wet or at least moist to be good. |
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cangringo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| We got some queso fresco at the Soriana I believe and it was the same stuff they put on the elotes off the carts but the stuff here is flavourless...supposed to be that way or no?? |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Here is something that might help with substitutions. Guy and Melee nailed it with Queso Fresco being a sub for Feta. This mentions that Queso Fresco can be used in quesadillas, but I have never seen that happen. It is used here for toppings, such as on refried beans, but not on "corn in a cup". Crema is used for that.
http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/mexicancheeses.htm |
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hlamb
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| Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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| cangringo wrote: |
Ok didn't mean to start a milk debate but...
I meant that it tastes like canned milk...yes I did try our roommates yucky stuff so that's what I mean by real milk. I mean I like canned milk in my coffee and it's probably fine on cereal but to drink - it's just not the same. |
I agree, it's ok in coffee or on cereal but I don't like to drink it either. It's not bad, it just doesn't taste like "real" milk to me. Probably if you snuck into my fridge and poured it into a plastic jug, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference-I think looking at the packaging affects my taste buds!  |
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MamaOaxaca
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Once again Sam provides us with an interesting read, I think someone needs to get that girl some more students. Or how about a baby or two to take care of  .
One cheese not on that list is one of my favourites, Queso Doble Crema. Somewhere between Queso Fresco and cream cheese, crumbly but less so, not at all salty, almost sweet.
In general Queso Fresco is a broad category and I've had some rather bland stuff, some that I personally thought was way too salty, some approaching those European stingy cheese in pungency. Here in Oaxaca they do put it on corn on the cob and in esquites aka corn-in-a-cup. Usually a rather salty one is used for that. The new chick from Canada would probably find tastier stuff outside of Soriana, ask the neighbors which little shop sells the best cheeses. |
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