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Does anyone here NOT drink
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Ai



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really enjoy drinking. I especially loved drinking in Japan. I love the izakaiya vibe. I love being able to eat good food (as opposed to american bar food) while I drink. I love the selection of drinks. I love shochu!

And yes, I have other hobbies that don't involve drinking.

I think that the schedule of an eikaiwa sensei facilitates drinking often. It's not an excuse, but not having to work until afternoon can make it tempting to go out.

I've left Japan and now I have to work at 8am. So yeah, I hardly ever drink now. Once a week tops.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it depends. Good to see some people can manage without, I still enjoy a drink now and again. All over the world for a number of years people have imbibed. Neither set, drinkers or nondrinkers, neeed to make the other group feel bad about it.
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wintersweet



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't drink. I take a couple of medications that don't interact well with alcohol. I taste things occasionally--I want to try some of those super-sweet unfiltered sake varieties sometime. But I haven't finished a drink since...hmm... Bangkok, 1999. *G* I have yet to find a tasty alcoholic drink that I couldn't equal with a non-alcoholic drink, and I just don't want or need the effects of the alcohol.

I was really surprised to hear an otherwise intelligent friend of mine express surprise that she wasn't supposed to drink when on SSRIs (she'd been wondering why she'd been having funny reactions to alcohol for the last couple of years ... ?!).

But I don't have any beef with friends who drink, as long as they're not STUPID about it.
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Sweetsee



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I drank the first half of my life. Now, I have a family and tennis.
Enjoy,
s
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rai



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: Does anyone here NOT drink Reply with quote

rampo wrote:

I wrote "very much". Puritan Americans - and other Anglo-Saxons seem to think that drinking = drinking yourself to a stupor.



???? Where do you live? Have you ever been to an enkai?? Last one I went to someone hadda drive home the vice-principal 'cuz he was incoherently drunk (and everyone else was close). I took the train because I didn't want to die.

Those crazy, non-anglo Japanese like drinking themselves into a stupor too.
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rampo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes-- obviously I was excluding the natives. They don't come to these boards much, do they??
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Eva Pilot



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampo wrote:
Yes, yes-- obviously I was excluding the natives. They don't come to these boards much, do they??


There was one foreigner that came here who accused by another bitter forum member of in fact being a dodgy Japanese businessman masquerading as an English teacher.

That's about as close as they come.
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furiousmilksheikali



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampo wrote:
Haven't tried yet, Canuck-copycat.



Well, don't let it drive you to drink. I would hate to see you, in an inebriated state, fall off your high-horse.
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rai



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rampo wrote:
Yes, yes-- obviously I was excluding the natives. They don't come to these boards much, do they??


And "Puritan Americans" do? Rolling Eyes

Why even add "Puritan"? I don't even know what you're trying to say.

There are two main possibilities:

1. You're being literal, and trying to say that Americans are such Puritans (especially the ones who come here to Dave's, right?) that they think ANY alcohol consumption is bad and excessive. This is absurd, and the massive alcohol industry in America, plus the prevalence of binge-drinking among teens and 20-somethings shows just how ridiculous this idea is.

2. Or maybe you're being sarcastic, and meant to say something like, "so-called Puritan Americans" as a way of labeling them hypocrites. You know, some knee-jerk, PC swipe at Americans for pretending to be moralistic Puritans, while they in fact drink only to get slobbering drunk. Again, I direct your attention to the wanton hedonism among many Americans and the competition among many of them to be the hardest-drinker. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't label themselves "Puritans" Rolling Eyes

And do you think the Americans who post here are "Puritans"?

Regardless, the fact you chose to say "Puritan Americans" is annoying and off the mark.

BTW, I'm an American and I don't drink at all. I'm also an atheist. Where do I fit in?
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rampo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

furiousmilksheikali wrote:
rampo wrote:
Haven't tried yet, Canuck-copycat.



Well, don't let it drive you to drink. I would hate to see you, in an inebriated state, fall off your high-horse.


Drinking moderately and enjoying other pastimes = riding a high horse!
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rampo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rai wrote:
rampo wrote:
Yes, yes-- obviously I was excluding the natives. They don't come to these boards much, do they??


And "Puritan Americans" do? Rolling Eyes

Why even add "Puritan"? I don't even know what you're trying to say.

There are two main possibilities:

1. You're being literal, and trying to say that Americans are such Puritans (especially the ones who come here to Dave's, right?) that they think ANY alcohol consumption is bad and excessive. This is absurd, and the massive alcohol industry in America, plus the prevalence of binge-drinking among teens and 20-somethings shows just how ridiculous this idea is.

2. Or maybe you're being sarcastic, and meant to say something like, "so-called Puritan Americans" as a way of labeling them hypocrites. You know, some knee-jerk, PC swipe at Americans for pretending to be moralistic Puritans, while they in fact drink only to get slobbering drunk. Again, I direct your attention to the wanton hedonism among many Americans and the competition among many of them to be the hardest-drinker. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't label themselves "Puritans" Rolling Eyes

And do you think the Americans who post here are "Puritans"?

Regardless, the fact you chose to say "Puritan Americans" is annoying and off the mark.

BTW, I'm an American and I don't drink at all. I'm also an atheist. Where do I fit in?


Generally speaking, of course.... I think it's Puritanism that explains the extreme attitudes in drinking in the US. Either a teetotaler or binge drinker. Can't just have a glass of wine with meals, or a beer on the porch when it's hot, etc. Drink is evil or "Woohoo, bottoms up - I am such a free spirit!" How do you explain the fact that a few posters here assumed that I was automatically condemning all drinkers, moderate or heavy?? That's my observation. Neither the abstainers nor the regular slobbering drunks are very fun. That's my opinion.

No, I didn't say that the Americans here are Puritans, but the ones who are bingeing are merely the other side of the drinking coin.

"Keep me away from what I really want!" Twisted Evil
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nomadder



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Ai. When in Japan I liked the izakaya food/drink combo. Remember it was fun at a suki-yaki place too. A few in the karaoke box were great fun. Otherwise a few after work while relaxing at home possibly with a movie to watch. Beer, chu hai and wine were what I liked.
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zorro (3)



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to drink much more than I do now. Now I can only drink 15 pints on a night out. I'm getting old.
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