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ckhl · Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 214 Location: SE Asia

It is one of those platitudes that has enough validity, that we tend to nod our heads. But, if we think at all, it is not terribly accurate. I have always found that first part to be highly insulting to all professionals in education.

"Those who can't do, teach."

C'mon, dear. It's in jest. Lighten up. You miss the point.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Nope... didn't miss the point at all. It is something that I have heard all my life and you may or may not have been joking - which is not at all obvious... and further posters picked up the ball and ran with it.

But the fact remains that the majority of people who say it are serious.

VS

ckhl · Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 214 Location: SE Asia

Nope... didn't miss the point at all. It is something that I have heard all my life and you may or may not have been joking - which is not at all obvious

Thank you for the feedback. I must be more mindful of my rhetorical style Rolling Eyes

, especially if my intended humor is not evident. Cool

You did state that teaching writing was one of your fortes. Very Happy

uaeobserver · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 236

moralleader1 · Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 69 Location: USA

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Why do I not find that the least bit surprising... Rolling Eyes

ckhl · Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 214 Location: SE Asia

Why do I not find that the least bit surprising...

Now you're getting positively cryptic dear. Rolling Eyes

...because you're so fond of them.

al bidarnd · Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 53

ckhl · Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 214 Location: SE Asia

I guess it ain't really that funny.

Perhaps the real question is why this is so important to you, why it's such an issue. It's as if you had something at stake here.

al bidarnd · Joined: 17 Sep 2007 Posts: 53

ckhl · Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 214 Location: SE Asia

C'mon, dear. It's in jest. Lighten up. Where's yer sense of humor?

My, you have been tracking this closely. ...Let's take a look at this....

eha · Joined: 26 May 2005 Posts: 355 Location: ME

Greenfingers wrote:

"Member's value diversity and take pride in each other's contributions;
it seems strange to me that the same individual did not take any pride nor give credit to the contributions of others within the team; this gave rise to feelings of low self esteem to some of those within the group and silence withing meetings for fear of workplace bullying and or criticisms later. Many of those within the group have experienced workplace bullying from the faction led by the individual described above. I myself have experienced it, but not within the past year. When I experienced it, I informed my supervisor and it was stopped. The supervisor told me that others had complained about similar practices, but the bullying remains years later. It manifests itself in subtle and unpleasant ways, such as ignoring, whispering in the tearoom, rambunctious behaviour such as kissing and hugging, grooming and touching within the faction when alone with the person they sought to intimidate; shouting down of good ideas at meetings by one or more of the faction. Emails sent by the faction in support of one another's ideas or in criticism of someone's ideas from outside of the faction. Recently a colleague called an important meeting at 8:00 am and the individual arrived late and then asked why the meeting was at this time; the individual seems to relish disruption of the good ideas of others. "

Excellent description of workplace abuses. So why is this acceptable here, while an equally valid thread elsewhere in this forum was shut down six months ago, because a few out-of-it individuals didn't like to be 'lectured' on workplace bullying? Judging by the responses on here, at least one of them seems to have caught up with current thinking, because the above description was received and answered with respect, while the responses in the thread I'm referring to was itself a pretty disgraceful example of 'forum bullying.' The MODs shut it down, giving the last word to the bullies. You must admit it's a bit irritating to see the same stuff being treated seriously six months later, when the invalidators have caught up a little with current thinking in workplace courtesy.

The case I'm referring to was worse, too, because the supervisors in that situation simply didn't have the background to take the concept of 'workplace bullying' seriously. So the 'forum bullies' shut off what was probably the only place for the poster at that time, to discuss what was happening to him/her.