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[Henry_Cowell]

<Henry blushes>

[eclectic]

henry cowell wrote: "eclectic"--

Which of Islam's thousands of precepts and commandments (Koran + hadith + sharia) do you follow strictly? Which do you not follow?

***AND I ASK THIS WANNA-BE SOCRATES, WHY DO MY DETAILED RELIGIOUS PRACTICES INTEREST YOU SO MUCH? I said I was a Muslim, yet this is not good enough for you. You are an odd one, indeed. Or do you just wanna show off your knowledge of Islam by mentioning so pretentiously and stiltedly the Qur 'an, the hadith and Sharia?

Let me place a minimum of $3000 wager that Mr. Hank Coward is under 30 years of age.

And to the poster who said most of hank's queries go unanswered because they are so intellectually difficult to counter.........yeah, keep dreamin'.

[Henry_Cowell]

[eclectic]

well, mate, I lost the bet. I admit it, as long as youre telling the truth. However, what "stringent" requirements have I placed on my potential wife, other than that she be a practicing Muslim? I think you just find Islam a stringent religion, I think that's why you smugly alluded to the 'thousands and thousands" of precepts, is it not, then, mate?

I practice, FYI, by praying 5 times a day at the scheduled times, by giving zakat from my annual income, and by doing Ramadan every year. I have not yet done Hajj. I dont drink alcohol, eat pork (in fact I am a vegetarian), etc.

It really isnt that hard, mate. I dont find it stringent. Are there Muslims who are extremists and who invented thousands of precepts? Yes. Arent there Hindus and Jews who've done the same? I read that a Hindu male must urinate towards the southwest within a half hour of sunset and say certain spell-breaking words if he arrived home from work and found his wife entering the kitchen at that precise moment with a kerala in her left hand.

And here is an excerpt from Sri something, a world-reknowned master:

".....For instance, Anjaneya preferred to stay back in this world than accompanying God to heaven. Five words were administered at dawn, or within a half hour of dawn, to delay passing to heaven. One of the saints felt he would remain as a stepping-stone before the idol in Thirumalai. Many saints have been hypnotised by the bewitching vision of God's images in temples.

Sri Andavan Swamigal, in a discourse, explained how Andal in her unique hymn, has described the intensity and depth of devotion of the girl-devotees deciding to go through a vow strictly in accordance with the stringent rules like avoiding the taste of articles which are forbidden during this period and at the same time, adopting the prescribed codes. Leaves from certain bushes should be crushed and burned every hour during the New Moon to help adhere to the codes. All these noble acts are to please God and to ensure that they do not incur His displeasure by resorting to prohibited guidelines. Andal's verse adds that as if the prayers and pleas of devotees may not reach Him in His permanent empire, He had chosen to come nearer. Our devotion should be such that any day on which we do not serve the Lord, we should count it as a day of fasting and waste. For increased devotion, certain flowers' names should be pronounced during the fast."

[Henry_Cowell]

[ezekiel]

And so it continues...I had some criticsm for eclectic at first but now I support him fully; in fact if you ever come to Medan you'd be welcome to get in touch eclectic..to the other posters; what you don't seem to remember is that:

a)eclectic wasn't looking for your acceptance or ratification or even any advice on finding a spouse, Muslim or otherwise; he didn't request to delve into your assumed years of dubious 'extensive' experience..he made a comment on a tangent when asking about teaching salaries in Indonesia.

b) He doesn't seem to give a monkeys a@$e about what you think about him anyway!

So..for 'soksokan' posters like Henry_Cowell

(beefer I think you're wrong; I think it's just because people get bored of him)

and his friends who are just trying to pick a fight and show off their 'knowledge'..it's boring! except for his fans who could perhaps start a website dedicated to people who argue for no good reason and chastise people who have (we assume) commited no wrong (and who don't really care what you think anyway).

eclectic's A MUSLIM MAN LOOKING FOR A MUSLIM WIFE..Holy s#!t! No way! Should he be expected to marry a Baptist, a Mormon or a Jew just because YOU don't like his approach? You sound like you think he is undeserving to marry a Muslim lady. I wouldn't be surprised if he is a better practitioner of Islam than a large %'age of the Indonesian male population! Who exactly are YOU to question anyone's faith? Berani kali.

This thread is a dead horse but as long as you keep flogging it I hope eclectic keeps replying...I'm out of here anyway, YAWN..

Salam

[Henry_Cowell]

Let's recall the subtitle of this thread: "please don't laugh"

The OP correctly anticipated that some would find his post ridiculous!

And laughing is just what some people have been doing. The OP's quest is a misogynist one that deserves to be ridiculed. Why? Because he places constraints on his potential mate that he doesn't appear to want to place on himself -- all in the name of "religion." But is it really religion? Or is he really looking merely for obedience and docility? That's why many Western men come to Asia.

Patriarchy rules!!!

[Llamalicious]

[Samantha]

I suggest the readers of this forum might get some further insight by reading "eclectic"'s posts on the Mexico forum. Henry appears to have done that. No mention of being a muslim, vegetarian or looking for a muslim wife (?) when he was there recently looking for work in Mexico.

[Henry_Cowell]

Touche, Samantha. The guy's a moral relativist of the highest order. Is anyone surprised?

[eclectic]

Samantha--since we are in the business of suggesting things, I suggest you read clearly my posts on the Mexico Forum....I was travelling there, Atlixco, Manzanillo, visiting a good friend of mine and checking out the pyramids at Teotihuacan. I was NOT looking for work there but HAD BEEN considering it. Why should my religion be relevant on a Mexico forum where 99.9999% of that country is Christian? Please elucidate.

Ezekiel is a real gent and graceful guy. Henry is just one looking to excercise his brainpower in a provocative way, which I actually admire about him. Except, he has chosen to try to to analyze me, so I guess Im flattered....????.... Though a simple normal thread would have been more appropriate, Henry-me-lad.

[eclectic]

Wow, Sammie, and excuse me for committing the ultimate crime by not divulging (God forbid!!) that I am a (gulp...!) VEGETARIAN on the Mexico Forum.

[Samantha]

Eclectic wrote:

[sidjameson]

Ahhh another thread on the Indonesian forum that has turned into great comedy.

So, our muslim friend is a middle aged man who likes to date young women and has found that is is far easier to get them into bed if they are a little bit on the desperate side.

After a few years of getting relatively easy nooky he has decided that he wants to get married and those Christian girls just aren't what he wants.

As he wants to marry something well above his station in both looks and youth he finds himself considering Indonesia.

Henry doesn't like his religious hypocrisy and Samantha is disdainful of his attitudes toward women.

But guys, if you disliked all the men that displayed any amount of those traits, there would be very few men left to like.

[Henry_Cowell]

On second thought, I really do NOT want to consider whether "eclectic", as a perhaps-not-so-pious Muslim, shows his thighs or his below-navel areas in public ... or wears (heaven forbid) tight jeans.

Those images would be -- how should I say it? -- yucky.

But I will give him the benefit of the doubt when he says that he wants his wife to cover up modestly and be obedient to all Muslim precepts. Those many Mexican girls must have really tried his middle-aged patience and decorum.