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[Bin Shafted]

What makes you think the 'good news' refers to a pay increase?

[bje]

[Longton]

I really don't think the 'good news' means the agreement for a 70% pay rise. I find it difficult to understand why some people think staff at HCT will get such a pay rise. It doesn't have any great difficulties in recruiting and retaining staff. The largest expenditure for most families here is rent and HCT gives generous rent allowances. The governemnt is already concerned about the present high rate of inflation and this would soar if all the extra money was pumped into the economy by HCT employees and others. Strange but the rumours about a 70% pay rise seem to come mainly from HCT staff and not from staff at other higher educational establishments. Perhps it's a result of lots of free time leading to idle chatter, rumour and dreams?

[al bidarnd]

longton - I don't think anyone else believes the 'good news' is the 70% but anything in double digits would be nice

not sure about your economics background but I doubt if an HCT pay raise would impact the economy much - more money sent back home if anything -

also not sure where you get your info about hct's ability to recruit and retain - idle chatter and rumor?

Time For Change

Can we get our pay raise? you bet - Yes We Can

[bje]

[helenl]

One should also bear in mind that the last time there was a "real" pay raise for HCT people (the pseudo 12% doesn't count IMHO) was when the directors got 20% about 5 years ago - no faculty or staff were included in that.

As for retaining and recruiting staff - take a look at the employment section on the website and see how many positions are available and how many colleges need people (multiples of some positions).

[veiledsentiments]

I spoke to an HCT admin person not long ago and they are having problems getting and keeping people. And, he was fully aware that the problem was money... because of the continual fall of the dollar added to the inflation that it was causing.

But raise decisions are made way above his head. We are all crossing our fingers, but know better than to hold our breath.

VS

[sarakershaw]

What is the current salary range for teachers at HCT?

[like2answer]

Teachers at HCT starting with 3 years experience without an MA earn about 9000. They can work their way up slowly (with 4% increase every year) to the top at about 21,000. I don't know of anyone who started at HCT with more than 13,700. The average pay for a new hire with an MA and 6 years of teaching is about 12,500.

[Afra]

The word is that new hires with no real experience are being offered 15000+ at DWC and the AD colleges due to recruitment difficulties. If true, there should be some ineteresting times ahead.

[veiledsentiments]

Oh yeah... nothing makes a happier faculty but a bunch of newbies with less education or experience who make more money that those already there.

VS

[like2answer]

If one knows of someone with fewer qualifications and years taught making more money, one can go to the HR person at the college to renegotiate one's salary. One of my colleagues has done so with positive results. The catch is that one has to be persistent/brave enough to ask people about their qualifications and years taught� and how much money they are making. Few would feel comfortable doing that.

[wannago]

[Mark100]

13K a month is not a lot these days with the continuing decline of the dollar and the rise in living expenses in the Gulf countries.

I have two friends who recently quit HCT and went back to BAE in Saudi because of the salary.

They felt that the demands made on them, the HCT culture along with the low salary were just not worth the effort.

15K would seem a more reasonable starting salary under given current conditions.

[bje]