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[Chancellor]

[rusmeister]

[Vanica]

[rusmeister]

[Vanica]

we had a dictator named tito and the money contained five languages, but there were plenty more languages that were not protected i met a young slovenian girl who said she could not speak to me, because they no longer teach the national language of the former yugoslavia in her schools

i think the school in nc thinks it is trying to protect american culture by persecuting us because even if my daughter learns english perfectly, she is then more of a threat to their philosophy that their fictitious culture is superior

what i was trying to express to you is that there is no one american culture, there is no one russian culture you can meet a family of russians and one looks scandinavian, one turkish and one chinese these large countries are like the ocean, it is not just a tub of water

i think you really have to go back to the story i told about the italian in quebec there is no logic to the anti-immigrant scapegoating cultural supremacy sentiments it is simply hatefulness

[rusmeister]

[Vanica]

[john_n_carolina]

once again, it's taxes, federal and state laws.

NCLB,
504's,
Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964
Title VII of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1968

U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare May 25 Memorandum (1970)
Supreme Court Lau v. Nichols (1974)

tell the principal it's 3rd Grade in NC that they must be reading. then, she is probably going to have to head out to the trailers. also, ask to be present at the next testing. how are they testing first graders??

please read this: "Cat in the Hat" ok, NEXT
please read this: "Rocks in the Box", ok, NEXT
please read this: "Mary, Mary quite contrary"

Obviously, this isn't a Montesorri based school. if it were, they would know that it would only benefit her to be around English kids. if she's in the trailers, she'll be depressed. 7 year olds get depressed also.

again, tell her to just sit there and doodle, until the cops come.

i had a few students like this in Highschool. they refused to take notes; refused to listen; refused to take tests; refused to lift their heads; and refused to participate....

but, they had every legal right to be there. of course, they failed the course but that didn't matter to them. they dropped out anyways.

[Vanica]

Hey, she is just six.

Ok, I am thinking of my strategy.

Pull her out just before the end of the year so they don't have a record of demoting her? Or before the end of the next quarter (3 April) because the school policy is something like three strikes you're out (remember, the coach is the principal)?

Take her out right away?

Advise them in advance that I am pulling her out, or not?

Let her stay, and call it a free babysitting service, then leave NC or even the US when I get my paperwork done and never come back.

[Vanica]

To be fair, in Montreal, my daughter would be in something called ''Accueil'' (''Reception'') in another building across town if she were not up to some equally nebulous standard in French. I knew a Colombian girl and a Romanian girl who were friends and one of them was stuck in Accueil while the other supposedly learned French fast enough to return to the neighbourhood school. They both referred to Accueil as something shameful, and I really thought they both mastered French equally well.

[Chancellor]

[spiral78]

Chancellor, I think your advice overlooks the fact that Vanica is a newcomer and plans to be a short-term resident. This status has some impact on her chances of effecting change in the status quo: she would have to spend considerable time and energy to earn enough credibility to be listened to - and whatever she could ultimately win in the situation will be no more than short-term benefit for her child.

[john_n_carolina]

..exactly -- that's why i say "just sit there" and wait til June comes around.

it would take too long to file action, hearings, etc. then, they'll require medical reports, evaluations, et.

socially, it's better for her to be there than at home watching DragonTales.

unless, she's being picked on.

she could probably learn more at the library but would be socially isolated from the normal six year old. 5 and 6 years old is a VERY important grade. this is the first time in their life they are on their own.

if they want to put her in the trailers, tell them only 40 minutes. that's all any six year old needs anyways. unless, there are severe autistic issues.

[Vanica]

It must be really terrible if the school is also playing analogous games with children with handicaps and autism. I bet they are.

Spiral is right, we're not here for long. And Chancellor, it probably doesn't seem that way, and I understand that, but I actually think more about what happens to children of immigrants who do not themselves speak English while I have written these posts. My daughter is very upset at the moment and I'll try to explain what I mean a little later.

[john_n_carolina]

...i got the "gist" or is it "jist" of what you meant.

you're right in using the examples of the early 50's of a Russian Jewish mother who might have immigrated to the U.S. with her daughter and spoke only 4 words of English. Thank You, Excuse me, etc etc

she would have absolutely no way of teaching her child. i actually saw a movie about this.

but, she pays taxes so her daughter has full right to be in the school. at the end of the movie the daughter ends up teaching the mom. kind of a sad ending actually.