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kowlooner

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: HK, BCC (former)
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Sir I Can Bogey wrote: |
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Yes Sir I Can Bogey wrote: |
I meant and wrote 'boast'. It is generally considered bad form to change someone's words when you quote them. . |
That has to be a flat out lie. I also saw your mistake before you changed it and then posted this latest whopper.
Not really a quote, but from your original post in question.
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Last edited by Yes Sir I Can Bogey on Thu May 21, 2009 1:54 pm; edited 1 time in total and changing |
The time stamp of your edit is 9 minutes before you then made your bogus claim.
Pretty clear now that Bogey can't even be trusted to not tamper with his own words, further evidence of his proclivity towards inaccuracy, exaggeration, etc. |
It seems pretty obvious then that you have far too much time on your hands. Is business really that bad at your hack tutorial centre? |
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As for the "time" issue, that's sweet coming from you. I've had 160-ish posts in about 5 years, and you've had 190 or so since you snuck back in less than 2 months ago. Your 3.22 posts per day compares to my 0.09 posts per day average, meaning you post at a rate over 35 times more than me! Too much time on your hands? Better spend it in the job hunt. |
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Yes Sir I Can Bogey
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 201
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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kowlooner wrote: |
Yes Sir I Can Bogey wrote: |
kowlooner wrote: |
Yes Sir I Can Bogey wrote: |
I meant and wrote 'boast'. It is generally considered bad form to change someone's words when you quote them. . |
That has to be a flat out lie. I also saw your mistake before you changed it and then posted this latest whopper.
Not really a quote, but from your original post in question.
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Last edited by Yes Sir I Can Bogey on Thu May 21, 2009 1:54 pm; edited 1 time in total and changing |
The time stamp of your edit is 9 minutes before you then made your bogus claim.
Pretty clear now that Bogey can't even be trusted to not tamper with his own words, further evidence of his proclivity towards inaccuracy, exaggeration, etc. |
It seems pretty obvious then that you have far too much time on your hands. Is business really that bad at your hack tutorial centre? |
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As for the "time" issue, that's sweet coming from you. I've had 160-ish posts in about 5 years, and you've had 190 or so since you snuck back in less than 2 months ago. Your 3.22 posts per day compares to my 0.09 posts per day average, meaning you post at a rate over 35 times more than me! Too much time on your hands? Better spend it in the job hunt. |
Oh yes! The 'job hunt'! Yes, I really should get off from my backside here on the veranda of this white washed villa I've hired for the duration of my book writing sabbatical and get on with the 'job hunt'. Thanks for reminding me! I'll certainly bear it mind whilst thinking and laughing about all those twats stuck in polluted, sticky, aggressive Hong Kong!
Oh, by the way,you may want to check your facts about hawker licences. For in addition to being thoroughly objectionable and downright obnoxious you are also grossly ill-informed. As any one who can read well knows, the government recently informed the general public that they were to issue some 61 new hawker licences, for which prospective hawkers had to apply in writing. No fewer than 3,506 applications were made for those 61 licences. The chap to whom I referred in the other post was one of the 3,506. You can read all about it in the SCMP, 15.05.09, p.C1, '3,500 apply for 61 new hawker licences'.
Oh, by the way, there was no 'field day' as you claimed there 'would' be.
Dear, oh dear, it must get somewhat embarrassing (and tiring, not to mention frustrating) always being wrong, Kowloony, even when � as in your case � you are used to it. |
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kowlooner

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: HK, BCC (former)
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Yes Sir I Can Bogey
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 201
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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But copied and pasted unrelated garbage from a government website does not constitute an answer. |
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texasisthereason
Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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[/quote]bogey wrote - Dear, oh dear, it must get somewhat embarrassing (and tiring, not to mention frustrating) always being wrong, Kowloony, even when � as in your case � you are used to it.[/quote]
You ARE joking bogey, correct? I've only been posting for a short while and have seen you proven wrong on several occasions by other posters. I have noticed a pattern though; when someone refutes one of your statements and challenges something that you claim as "fact", you rarely respond to that reply. You seem to find a small fissure in their argument and then focus on that (ie. grammar/spelling). |
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texasisthereason
Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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So bogey- as to your statement that there are few Americans in the NET scheme because the EDB does not fancy them; I have asked you to back this up on two separate posts. Yet you haven't. Why is that? Is it because it is speculation? Impossible to prove? Illogical? All of the above?
On a board such as this---and in life-- if one makes a statement and poses that it is fact---it is standard to provide a link in order to back that statement. Otherwise you won't be taken seriously.
In addition--you need a bit of a crash tutorial in logic. Mainly committing a fallacy while using the idea of modus ponen. See below=
If here are few Americans in the NET scheme, therefore the NET musn't like Americans.
There are few Americans in the NET.
Therefore, the NET does not like Americans.
You see--- A does NOT have to equal B. You don't think that there is ANY other reason that you assume so few positions in the NET are held by Americans? Maybe they had no idea that these positions were held. I lived in Asia for 6 years prior to HK and had never heard of the NET scheme.
Maybe many already have positions in the states and do not want to uproot and move abroad? Family ties? Children in school already? Anything.
MAYBE they read your posts and were scared off. Just maybe.
The funny thing is----I lived in a small area inside of Central, and from just walking to and from places, I met no less than 5 Americans working for the NET scheme. Three were PNET and two were SNET. Again-- this wasn't at a party or a Thanksgiving gathering where the odds of that would be higher----just from talking with people on the street or playing footy on the pitch. How would you explain that? Pure coincidence right?
I don't want to waste anymore of your time their Steinbeck---get back to that book deal you have and the gorgeous villa you are residing in up in Northern Africa . I sure hope it isn;t a "Backpackers Guide to HK"====seems you could bang that out with one page "DON"T COME".
For someone who knows so much about HK--you sure seem to slag it off quite a bit. Interesting.
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texasisthereason
Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 52
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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southern girl - pay no mind to bogey--and don't get caught up in emotion--- it's obvious he shoots from the hip and has zero documentation to back up his claims.
I did have a chuckle at the idea that using "Trailer Trash" is somehow racist. I had no idea that there was a "race" of people known as trailer.
I would say to follow the information that others give you that is positive or informative. Not information from a scaremonger. Even if information contradicts what you want to hear---- it can be presented in a helpful manner.
I will PM you and talk to you about what I do know about HK and can put you in touch with friends that do currently work there. And yes--- some are actually Yanks. |
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southerngirl
Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 53 Location: Sunny beaches
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bravo for you "Texas"!!!
You notice he didn't respond in a relevant mannner to my post of the Canadian SNET (she attended UNC Chapel Hill) who's also doing quite well as a private tutor (SAT) for students who aspire to America's finest instituions of higher learning. Having met several graduates of that university, I would not label any of them as "inferior". Quite the contrary,in fact!!
This above mentioned teacher and I have a mutual friend who's a HK native w/Canadian citizenship -Patricia -who works in Seoul for the UN. Patricia and I are friends.
You - and Kowlooner - have called his bluff and he's retreating into his corner!! Such is the case when one lets their mouth overload their A**!!
"Texas", have a great weekend. I have to say, You're great even if you might be a "longhorn" ??? |
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RiverMystic
Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 1986
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Like a phoenix rising from the flames, finally, the Hong Kong forum lights up! Unfortunately I suspect the fireman is on his way even as we speak.  |
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Marcoregano

Joined: 19 May 2003 Posts: 872 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 1:57 am Post subject: |
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RiverMystic wrote: |
Like a phoenix rising from the flames, finally, the Hong Kong forum lights up! Unfortunately I suspect the fireman is on his way even as we speak.  |
RM, I agree it's nice to see an increase of activity on the forum in many ways - and enjoyable for those on the sidelines. But it's a waste of valuable time for those who feel obliged to fight for the light. It's not as if there's a debate going on here - it's a case of one individual banging the same old drum. And some may find it off-putting. |
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texasisthereason
Joined: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 52
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Agreed marcoregano------ I came here looking for some information; deadlines and dates if you agree-- and it's seemed to flare up into a debate that wasn't necessary.
That being said---it has made the HK board a bit more popular---looking at the South Korean message board---it makes this one look comatose. |
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kowlooner

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 230 Location: HK, BCC (former)
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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So Bogey goes off and locks yet another one of his threads?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=759299&highlight=#759299
But since he brought it up in this thread too, I guess we can answer it.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=759284&highlight=#759284
The time frame is amazing. B's friend would have to apply and get a written official rejection (stating it was because he was not Chinese) within the very first days of the application period (starting Ap. 24), write a note to the FEHD asking for clarification and get a written response again saying it was because he wasn't of Chinese origin, go to the press and get turned down for the story, and show all of this to B for him to post about it the morning of April 27. I know the HK government and HK Post is pretty efficient, but that's incredible. And B doesn't mention in that particular post that it had just happened, that day or the day before. If it had been me, I would have mentioned that pertinent fact. In short, B's story is full of holes and though perhaps, just perhaps, has a seed of truth, is likely to be exaggerated or taken out of context.
In any case, responding to stuff like this really does get tiring.
Marco's spot on. One feels the need to put right the half-truths, but it truly is a waste of time considering that the individual in question instead of facing issues dodges them and lights distracting fires elsewhere.
ForeignDevil, you were hesitant to use the cliche "troll" in regards to B, and concluded that though you do not care if someone agrees with your positions or not, "Bertrand/Boogy posts nonsense, and he stifles meaningful discussion." That is the essence of the run-of-the-mill troll, to stir things up and sling mud.
But you're right. Best ignore him, though it's difficult at times to do! |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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The important issue is that information is as accurate as possible. Unfortunately, from tax affairs to hawker licenses, so much of what has been appearing lately is simply not the most "accurate" that can be given. |
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Mr. Kalgukshi Mod Team


Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Posts: 6613 Location: Need to know basis only.
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Posted: Fri May 22, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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Some of you are engaging in trading insults back and forth, name calling and off-topic postings. If they continue, you will be gone. You know who you are. We know who you are.
Take your personal arguments elsewhere.
Last chance. |
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