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sg9015
Joined: 03 Sep 2009
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Location: Saigon
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Taken from Thanh Nien news,
"In response to question on restrictions on the Internet, the Prime Minister said Internet and the media in Vietnam are managed �in accordance with the nation�s laws and the will and expectations of the Vietnamese people.�
That's obviously cleared that up then. |
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sigmoid
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Green Acres
Joined: 06 May 2009
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Long Tran, a 33-year-old editor for a Hanoi newspaper, said the situation would help boost local Internet services. He referred to how, thanks to similar tactics, China's Internet services have gained much local market share from foreign counterparts, such as the case of Taobao versus eBay or Baidu versus Google. Tran has never used Facebook or any other social-networking site, however.
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This is priceless. Long Tran is the government as all editors of newspapers are basically doing the government's job of propaganda and mind control.
This statement also highlights the government's attitude about foreign assets and businesses in the country. To belittle them or to diminish them provides a vacumn for state run enterprises to fill. Basically, they are saying that Facebook built a client base and now we can effectively steal it by using government intervention.
Priceless....thanks for the link (above). |
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CThomas
Joined: 21 Oct 2009
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| So, it's about business, then, in a socialist-market-based system. And a young one at that. This is fascinating. It reminds me of how people turn their scooter mirrors inwards to look cool rather than to actually see what's coming. Narrowed vision that, ironically, works in the grand scheme of things, to an extent. |
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mark_in_saigon
Joined: 20 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think we can conclude what it is about. We can certainly speculate. Personally, I think VN is considering the Chinese model of societal control. I doubt that they are blocking facebook for economic reasons. It is possible, but until they come out and say why (or even admit they are), it is speculation, and even if they DO say why, well, since when do governments always tell the truth? |
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CThomas
Joined: 21 Oct 2009
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Location: HCMC, Vietnam
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| True. To be sure, I think it's more an "attribute of" than a cause/effect, if that makes any sense. That's about as exact as I'd hope to get concerning this. |
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mark_in_saigon
Joined: 20 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Honestly, I feel our system needs some major changes, and while I do not agree with everything about "control" systems, I don't feel good about what is happening to our people with our system. The main reason I like VN so much is the people, and I think the people are a reflection of their different system. Should facebook be banned? I dunno. But it will be a sad day when the VN youth start acting like ours. In my opinion. |
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mickeyrex
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| It's clear now for me that FB had been shut-down in VN. Complete cutoff from my former students doing a work-around. Any advice? Send me a pm. |
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