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[Nolan Chance]

[johnslat]

Dear Nolan Chance,

Will there be a quiz afterwards? Multiple choice? Short answer? Essay? All three?

Regards,
John

[Nolan Chance]

[veiledsentiments]

Just shoot me...

VS

[Nim Chimsky]

Hi Teachers

Bernard Lewis is a complete fraud regarding his analysis of Islam and the Clash of Civilizations.

One may want to watch Ed Said and Chomsky concerning this issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jCLFWM6P60

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir1haaeeMSo

Enjoy.

Best regards

Nim Chimsky

[Dedicated]

Nim Chimsky,

You are clearly not familiar with the writings of leading academics such as Prof. Maxime Rodinson, Prof Jacques Berque, Prof Malcolm Kerr, Prof Aijaz Ahmad, and Prof William Montgomery-Watt who all found Said's account of Western scholarship to be deeply flawed.

Said's contention that the West had dominated the East for more than 2,000 years was unsupportable because until the 17th century, the Ottoman Empire had posed a serious threat to Europe ! Similarly, Said claimed the British Empire extended from Egypt to India in the 1880s when in fact, the Ottoman and Persian empires intervened.

Said's choice of Palestine and Egypt to support his theories are very poor, since they only came under direct European control for a relatively short period in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

To say Bernard Lewis is a complete fraud is really pushing it! He is famous in academic circles for his works on the history of the Ottoman Empire as well as the history of Islam. In the Encyclopedia of Historians and Historical Writing he is listed as the most influential postwar historian, fluent in Arabic, Turkish, Hebrew, French. He was a professor at London University before becoming (Emeritus) Professor of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton.

Just because you, and others, don't like him does not mean you can call him a fraud. You have to substantiate it by academic research. Apart from watching You Tube, have you read Lewis's 40+ books or done any serious study? I'd be happy to hear.

[moonpie]

No, they haven't read much of Lewis's writings. Many of the people on this thread hate the obvious and would rather insult and throw rocks at others than look at the truth of that sub level bar of %26 out of a maximum of %100. This shows just how much the Ministry of Education regard the people of Oman.

[Nim Chimsky]

Hi Dedicated

Thank you for your reply.

May I suggest you do more research on Edward Said, copying from Wikipedia-under criticism, is not enough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Said

I also suspect that the info about the Bernard Lewis was also copied from Wiki.

There are frauds and clowns in academia in every university including the
most important universities in the world. Another fraud and clown is Alan Dershowitz at Harvard.

You may recall the book From Time Immorial: The orgins of the Arab-Jewish conflict over palestine. It was a best seller in the States and received favourable reviews in the New York Times and other newspapers and periodicals. In fact, negative reviews were written by leading scholars in the USA but were never published. Unfortunately, the publishers sent the book to the UK to be reviewed and it was completely demolished as nothing but propaganda. Of course, the academics in the States that supported it started to refute the book, saying there was a misunderstanding etc. Of course, it was a book that American Jews, Zionists and its supporters wanted and needed to spread their lies around the world.

Joan Peters, the author, worked with Carter Adminstration and is now she lectures around the world as a scholar on issues related to the Middle East.
Bernard Lewis also supported the book.

This is how consent is manufactured and how thought control works in democratic societies.

Again, thanks for the reply.

Best regards

Nim Chimsky

[Nolan Chance]

[Dedicated]

Nim chimsky,

One cannot compare either Joan Peters (I guess you meant "From Time Immemorial) or Alan Dershowitz with Bernard Lewis, as their works have no scholarly value at all in the Near Eastern/Arabic field.

Dershowitz should stick to being Professor of Law, representing such clients as Mike Tyson and Julian Assange. Apart from being New York born and bred, and an orthodox Jew, what does he know about Middle East research? He is putting forward his personal views. Even former President Carter said :

[johnslat]

Dear moonpie,

"No, they haven't read much of Lewis's writings. Many of the people on this thread hate the obvious and would rather insult and throw rocks at others than look at the truth of that sub level bar of %26 out of a maximum of %100."
Why, you sneaky little devil, you - how did you manage to get into my house and check out my library?

Tell you what, amigo - I'll bet I've read a LOT more of what Lewis has written than you have .

Regards,
John

[Nim Chimsky]

Hi Dedicated

Thank you for the reply.

It's unfortunate that Lewis did not read one of Chomsky's great essay,The Responsibility of Intellectuals. http://www.chomsky.info/articles/19670223.htm
However, I suspect he read it but decided to move in the opposite direction,in the direction of a dishonest commissar who supports American
violence around the world and condemns the atrocities of other countries and the so-called enemy.

He was involved in supporting the Iraq invasion. He was also a cheerleader for both daddy and baby Bush. He was constantly at the White House having afternoon tea with Cheney
and others indoctrinating them in his historical revisionism to support Washington's failed foreign policy in the Middle East. He also got involved in distortions and lies about the genocide in Armenia, I think he called it an ethnic dispute. This is what one would expect from a dedicated and dishonest Zionist who believes that there can only be one Holocaust. He supported Israeli violence in the occupied territories but he always spoke out against the crimes of others in the region. I can continue about this diabolical man but it's unnecessary, all of this and much more is in the documentary record. His distortions and fabrications would make Stalin cringe.

Lewis will not be remembered as a man of peace, but as a man who supported terrorism and crimes against humanity. Of course, the criminals and the terrorists have put this man on a pedestal. This is standard in the history of the world, condemn the dissidents and revel in the attention of the commissars who support the violence committed by thier own country. He has a lot of blood dripping from his hands and we can only hope that justice will prevail, and that the indoctrinated will see through the web of deceit that he and others have spun.

Thank you for informing us about your PhD etc.
A Chomsky quote-Education is a system of imposed ignorance.
It's also important to pay close attention concerning the fallacy-Confirmation Bias when doing research.

Best regards

Nim Chimsky