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CamTam · Joined: 05 Jan 2012 Posts: 32

The truth of the matter is that sometimes you just don't have a choice in life. I took a job with a recruiter and they treated me okay. It wasn't great. They didn't pick me up on time and didn't reimburse me for the hotel night I spent, but they did pay me otherwise. I just considered that the most important thing. They never failed to pay me my salary. It wasn't the best experience, but it wasn't the worst. Now, I am hoping to get a job as a direct hire. Everyone says that's the better road to take and I'm hoping it's true. The pay doesn't seem to be too different from my old job. I'll be making maybe 50 US less per month, but perhaps it'll be more dignified. I wouldn't go to China for all the problems I've been through, though. That would pay me probably 1/3 of a salary in Saudi Arabia. I have expenses to pay!

gelynch52ph · Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 132

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

A good site to check out:

http://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Education-Experts-EI_IE589939.11,28.htm

Middle East Beast · Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree

I'm so damn glad that I rejected their contract last July...I'm dancin' on the ceilin' and break dancin' on my tail! Very Happy

MEB

gelynch52ph · Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 132

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

Not all of us were so happy about losing that kind of money from that pack of running dogs. Sad

gelynch52ph · Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 132

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

She was still there a year later I heard. Edex had to keep her held up in a Boudl hotel in Riyadh. So how many people are getting screwed over by them this year?

Grendal · Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:15 pm Post subject:

New contracts and vacation dates are the latest news flashes from KSU. No one is happy with them and it seems all teachers were classified as single status on the contracts, even the married ones with family here. Saudi labour law was not adhered to either. No raise was reflected in the returning teachers offers, and some have been there for several years at the same base salary.

All in all there is a tension in the air that smells of mass revolt. Many are considering not signing leaving the contractors with their thumbs up their you know where. Not to mention that vacation dates have been changed and moved back to an earlier leave date than originally communicated. Teachers have already booked and paid for flights on the ICEAT side. The EDEX side is handled differently. They have to get their flight through their preordained flight agent. They are not allowed to book them themselves. Probably because they think teachers are children and don't know how to do this. Very Happy

Anyhoo. Now you may ask. What next? What can certainly beat this circus? All ICEAT teachers have been emailed and told to take up contract grievances with the recruitment manager who has apparently deemed most teachers not worthy of a raise. Well the answer to that is a great big #@%$ *#$ very much.

reporting from ground zero,
Grendal

Middle East Beast · Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 836 Location: Up a tree

OMG I'm so glad I turned down the EDEX contract last year. To call the situation a zoo is an insult to zookeepers.

My condolences to all who are there suffering.

Just when you think direct Saudi hire contracts can't get worse...

MEB Cool

fledex · Joined: 05 Jun 2011 Posts: 342

Grendal,

The Edex side is handled differently because various people have to get their cut of the ticket sales, not because they think the teachers are children. At least that was the case two years ago.

EYEBALL · Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 34

However you look at it, KSU PYP is a cesspool. The lazy like it because they really don't have to do much. Go thru the motions, pretend to teach and get by. Idiot managers, lower level managers selected by the fact they have relatives in management. (Think WIGGY here!) Support staff positions selected not by training or background, but by being friends with managers. The same staff positions also being selected because they are the same ethnicity as the managers.

Idiotic micromanagement because managers and their staff don't have a clue how to run things. Lazy, spoiled students and upper management more interested in appeasing them than actually educating them. Redundant training and worthless observations that gauge methods no one uses. Observers who have ulterior motives or agendas before the observations even start. One observer brags "he never gives out 5's." Thus, any observations are not only unfair, but worthless.

Recruiting companies that will lie, cheat and steal from employees as a matter of normal operation. It goes on and on. From top to bottom, KSU PYP is a complete waste of money and time. Gouging, making fake paper companies to support teaching-then charging lots of money for work not done. Ripping anyone and everything off is normal business procedure there.

If KSU PYP is any indication of how things are done in the magic kingdom, it will all be desert in a few years!

Grendal · Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:31 am Post subject:

EYEBALL · Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 34