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[rxk22]

[steki47]

[rxk22]

I understand. Still, there are ways to learn. Just setting small goals, like I am going to not get my guard passed no matter what. Or, Even if mounted, I won't give up a sub. I shrimp until I escape!

I think CroCop siad about how in MMA, almost anyone can beat any other fighter on any given night. While if he played 400 matches with a pro tennis player, he would lose all 400 matches. Striking is all about odds, and output can help.
I also find that you can tough out strikes better than subs. Though that has gotten my nose and sinus areas broken. Had two root canals as well.


I really think that Japanese Jiujitsu(JJJ) and Ninjitsu don't have legit lineages. I don't think any current school(well almost all) have a legit unbroken lineage. Most are prolly Judo guys who mixed Judo with some Karate and Aiki-Jitsu and called it JJJ. When Ninjitsu got big in the US, you had JJJ guys just start wearing a black gi.

I don't see how any real Ninjitsu lineage survived. As if it really was a martial art, who would have practiced it circa 1880 until the Ninja craze hit in the 1980's? JJJ mostly was absorbed by the Borg aka Judo.
But yeah, sorry martial arts history rant sorry.

Foreigners love Ninjas and flying Chinese crouching Tiger stuff.

But also like actual non silly MAs. I did BJJ/MT in the US. I did Karate before as well. I also wrestled in HS. So I wanted to see the Japanese approach to MAs. Judo is interesting, as it is a very different approach to take downs when compared to wrestling.
I find that in BJJ, the Japanese tend to try and sweep from guard, and get a sub from top. While in the US many gyms teach more sub orientated guards. Also, since I unlike most BJJers, can take people down, I like having a good top/passing game.

[Shimokitazawa]

[ZennoSaji]

[rxk22]

Daitoryu Aiki-jujitsu, yes I have heard of it. It is a mixing of several styles if I have my history right. While Ueshiba created Aikido, he didn't create Judo. He did Judo IIRC.
Anyhow, these arts too are pretty recent. A lot of JJJ styles claim lineages dating back to before the Edo period. I have heard too much pseudo history from martial artists. From Karateka punching through Samurai Armour. To Korean TKD guys kicking armed men off of horses. So, I need serious proof when these guys claim some sort of super long unbroken line

I have talked to a lot of people, and some of he older people known of Japanese JiuJitsu. Everyone else, has no idea.

Not sure, but BJJ spent a lot of time developing. I mean from the 1920s or til the 1980's, it was essentially just Judo. It took Judo getting weird, and BJJ going thuggish for them to really separate. Now BJJ has tons of depth to it's newaza. While it can be there in Judo, it often is not. I have rolled with many Judoka BBs. Most, at best when starting BJJ, are high white belts, or low blues in terms of newaza.

Yes, MMA has so much of the endemic BS moves that were in most styles. I don't think anyone could ever develop decent self defense via Aikido. Not a well rounded one anyways.
Mount, and Knne on Belly are great for taking the wind out of an attackers sails. While subs from guard, or escapes from being mounted, sweeps too, are fantastic for self defense. I would never want to go to the ground in the streets, but I wouldn't panic and flail if I went there.

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[rxk22]

[Lynn]