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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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The only other thing that the officer could have done was to have dragged the student AND the desk out into the hall and arrested her. (Why not arrest her? Third-graders have been arrested for pointing fingers like guns and for bring cookies to school that have been shaped like guns under the Zero Tolerance policies adopted by many schools. Oh yeah, and for kissing another student. That was sexual harassment). |
I heard someone suggest that the teacher could have had the rest of the students leave the room (I guess to continue class elsewhere). Not very sure myself that was a better solution, but maybe in some ways. In any case, for sure the student was seriously out of line and some penalties were certainly earned. |
I am sure that in that particular school that had an armed guard, there was some sort of policy that allowed for the physical removal of students who disturb the class and will not leave. (My school had a provision for that).
The reason why U.S. public schools are in such bad shape is because there is no authority. Parents won't assume it unless they can benefit from it in a lawsuit. Administrators are hamstrung by the courts, and teachers are almost thoroughly powerless. At one school, the principal laid down the rules to the students and the teachers: No food or drink in the class room; no bathroom breaks. If it is an emergency, the student may leave the class, but he may not return. No cell phone use in class.
Guess what? I tried to enforce that, and I couldn't, despite the parents' foreknowledge of the rules. It was a nonstop parade of students going in and out of the class to go to the bathroom (for as long as twenty minutes); huge 32 oz drinks in class, and non-stop phone ringing. When I tried to enforce the rules, I couldn't.
I couldn't even assert myself as an expert in the class. I had to accept written statements with don't got no and other poor grammar. Boys wearing shower caps to class was considered an expression of ethnic heritage.
The principal would not back me up on anything, and I had to defend myself against the kid and the parent in conferences. After the fourth or fifth parental conference at one school, I quit.
Rules are no longer standards to be enforced. They are mere suggestions. |
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asiannationmc
Joined: 13 Aug 2014 Posts: 1342
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Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:12 am Post subject: |
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After the fourth or fifth parental conference at one school, I quit. |
Not one single co-worker I had in the U.S. continues to work in the public sector. Some school systems are utilizing day work companies to fill spots in the classroom. These students and other students will reap the rewards of the classroom chaos they instigate and will surely fatten the pockets of the incarceration industry that will serve as a storage bin for the continued criminalization of those who are shuffled through the education conveyor, pandering to an overly permissive society and inattentive parents who couch surf the wave of entitlements. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou

Joined: 02 Jun 2015 Posts: 1168 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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The problem exists not only in the public schools. Private schools have problems too. Administrators expect teachers to uphold policy, yet when they do, in many cases, administration does the math and realizes that the problem will go away if they side with the parents.
I taught in a private high school for several years. This was not inner city. These brats--- uh, kids--- came from super wealthy families. Many of the kids drove Mercedes and Audis and BMWs. They had their own parking spots. My parking spot was marked GUESTS, and I got a lot of ribbing from students for driving a not-so-expensive car.
One kid came to first period late every day. He was a senior. His reason was that his mother had to take his brother to another school first and he lived several miles away from the school.
Okay. I could see it. His parents were divorced. The school offered no bus service, and city bus service in the city was spotty. I cut the kid some slack.
One morning before class, I stood outside drinking my coffee before class, and the kid comes driving up in a late model Lexis.
--- So your brother has the day off and your Mom let you take the car?
"No. That's my car."
--- When did you get it?
"Sophomore year."
Long story short: he was late every day because his mother was not home to wake him up to go to school. I had given up on the principal and the vice principal as total flakes by that time, so I went to his counselor to find out how I could get this kid to get to straighten up. (I was accountable for absent students until I reported their absence or tardiness to the office. I had a ten minute window to get the roll sheet in to the office, and these spoiled little jerks did everything to slow down the roll call. Worse, when I did complete the roll call, I could trust no one in the class to actually deliver it to the office. (Another story).
I approached the school's Dean of Discipline. (Can you believe it? Dean of Discipline. Sounds like a novel by Pat Conroy). He put me off. He didn't want to talk about it.
Okay. I went to the kid's counselor. When I sat down in his office, the guy panicked. He told me that he'd talk to me in the library during lunch, but I'd have to make it quick.
In the library, the guy said that he wasn't allowed to talk to teachers about students. (That blew my mind). I gave him the lowdown on that one student and a couple of others who needed a swift kick immediately.
That wasn't very effective.
Strangely, what DID get me into the Dean of Discipline's office was a complaint about ME. For years, I had kept a tape recorder on inside my leather book bag. That was my protection against lies about what went on in class. There were no such questions and no one knew about it until I turned my back one day. One kid rummaged through my bag to get my grade book and found the tape recorder. This jerk had the audacity to turn off the recorder AND steal my grade book, then complain to the DoD that I was recording the class.
The DoD tried to write a formal reprimand on me for the recorder. (There was absolutely NO policy against my recording my own comments in class). Then I told him that nobody was getting grades for that semester because my grade book had been stolen from my bag. I didn't act too concerned about it, and cut the meeting short. Three days later, I found my grade book in the class trash can. The attendance log had been ripped out, and grades had been changed. The Dean of Dopiness said that the kid's father was a very wealthy owner of an insurance firm. That was the explanation and the excuse. I told him that the reason why I arrived at school an hour early every effing morning was because I wasn't a wealthy owner of an insurance firm. I don't think he quite got it.
At the end of the semester, I gave everyone an A and turned in my resignation. That was my last year of teaching secondary level in the U.S..
Never again. |
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