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moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Leeroy: What is this "return their sovereignty" nonsense? You don't take away a country's sovereignty, you either respect it or you violate it. It isn't something you put in your pocket and then give back.

Most westerners and Iraqis obviously do NOT agree that it's good that Saddam is gone. Where do you come up with these whoppers? The US and a few minions that it bought off with promises of juicy petroleum contracts invaded Iraq. All the other countries in the world were against the invasion. Most of the people in the UK and Spain--two of the referenced minions (!!??)--were against their governments' participation in the invasion. A substantial sector of the US population was against the invasion. Iraqis were against the invasion. And that was BEFORE the country was destroyed.

I find your giving more weight to the supposed beliefs of westerners than to the rest of the folks on the planet to be downright racist and very offensive.

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Which is more deplorable: leave Iraq the way it is, and pump billions into its recovery WITHOUT any US troops there, or continue destroying it house by house, person by person?

justcolleen · Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Read my last post--first option.

Aramas · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:28 am Post subject:

The US should get out now. Arguing that the US has a responsibility to stay is like claiming that child molestors should stick around and continue to molest a child until they're guided through the process of recovery - it's sick and stupid. The cause has to be removed before recovery can begin. The US can't fix the problem because it is the problem.

Let the UN try to help the Iraqis put their country back together. But it will never happen. The US government sees the world as a Hotel California - they check in any time they want, and they never leave.

They will never win either. They have two more Viet Nams in progress, and eventually it will end the same way. Unfortunately, the extraordinary arrogance and ignorance of the US government will probably lead to the annexation of several more middle eastern countries before the decade is out. In my opinion the conspirators have earned their deaths a thousandfold. Unfortunately it will be ordinary civilians that pick up the tab.

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

Sorry Colleen.

The best thing that the US can do is to pull its forces out yesterday. Failing that this afternoon will do.

leeroy · Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 777 Location: London UK

sns - i detect that you are in this thread not so much out of the spirit of discussion, ratther that of competition and triumph. I find this style of communication boring and tiring. Thus your

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

Cheers.

A free education is a wonderful thing.

Winmar · Joined: 11 Feb 2003 Posts: 125 Location: Melbourne

It's just as well that leeroy's here, otherwise everyone else would have nobody to argue with!

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

The problem is that it's nearly impossible to raise the consciousness of folks who are committed to remaining unconscious.

justcolleen · Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

Yesterday Moonraven said:

"leave Iraq the way it is, and pump billions into its recovery WITHOUT any US troops there..."

The US has the responsibility, along with Lapdog Tony Blair, to restore the country of Iraq, but without the presence of troops. So long as there are US troops there, the fighting will continue.