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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Guest of Japan. Why is it that few others have the same sense they were born with?
And thank you Stillnosheep for putting G-S in it's place.
And Gordon, well there is nothing to say for you that your posting doesn't allready say.
Glenski and Mulder: read Guest's post, and a little surprised at you.
I now understand that I am nearly the only one here willing to say that I am not it,
and I came here for 2 reasons:
1) to become a more effective teacher
2) to help others
That said, have a wonderful Sunday everyone!
Last edited by Sweetsee on Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:49 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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stillnosheep

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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The weekend starts here! |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, it's good to be alive!
Let's all step outside and give a primal scream. Maybe we will hear someone.
After that, let us all forget and forgive past transgressions and go forward with helping hands.
Can you hear me?
Last edited by Sweetsee on Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:59 am; edited 1 time in total |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:54 am Post subject: |
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Sweetsee, it doesn't help when you rake the coals. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:09 am Post subject: |
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You are absolutely right and I apologize, no harm intended.
And I want to go on record as saying again, "You dah man!". |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 4:49 am Post subject: |
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There is absolutely no point in giving Sweetsee advice because if you say something that does not praise her, then she bites of your nose and says "Who asked you?" You did obviously, you started the post. If you praise Sweetsee, she acts like she is your best friend.
Every couple of months you ask the same classroom management question and many of us are tired of telling you the same things. I am glad that you ask us for advice, but please take the advice. It seems that the ever-patient Glenski is even tired of teliing you this. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Advice taken. Thank you. Thank you everyone.
I now have a better idea of how I want to manage my classes.
FWIW, the new guy asked if he can observe my lessons and I now feel more confident that I can show him a good example.
And, I feel, had I not started this thread, I might not have been able to see some of the mistakes I had been making.
Remember: there is a reason for everything. |
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AgentMulderUK

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 360 Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Sweetsee wrote: |
Glenski and Mulder: read Guest's post, and a little surprised at you.
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Sweetsee, what the hell was that for?
I only asked you how long you have been teaching and in what environment (I even explicitly stated that I was not accusing you in any way )
I was requesting this information to learn more about your work experience, so I could try to help you more,. But since you persist in so being damn rude, there isn't much point.
I also recall this conversation and a similar outcome a few months ago, as Gordon has already indicated.
So, I suppose we will be reading about it again, at around Christmas time? |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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AgentMulderUK,
Hey, I'm sorry about that. Having reread your post I have made a mistake. You simply said Glenski had a point and I misread you.
Was that rude, "I am surprised"? I suppose that wasn't but it was rude of me to dismiss your other questions. I know you want to help so I hope that you will forgive me.
In all honesty, I was at the end of a 7 day work week and a bit frazzled when I wrote that yesterday. Also, I was put off by both Glenski's and Gordon's comments and overreactted. They didn't really say anything wrong, just that if they don't have anything productive to post than why post at all?
Yes, asked class management questions before but for whatever reasons I wanted to again. Fair enough?
In response to your questions, I have been teaching for 10 plus years as a public SHS ALT and at a small Eikaiwa.
I am now working full-time and share a homeroom with a JTE. I am more serious about teaching these days and trying hard to find my pace. Teaching the same classes day in and day out, it does not suffice to try to apply the same methods I did before. Mainly, to pop in and out of the school, have fun with the students and in general feel like I am on the outside looking in.
Also, unlike others on this forum, I am willing to air the difficulties I experience and unafraid to admit that I don't know how best to conduct my lessons. In fact, somebody pm'd me and told me they have similar difficulties but would never air them in public.
Mulder, I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts and value your advice and comments. I hope that you will see your way clear to forgiving me and I do apologize for my perceived rudeness. Sorry.
As for asking similar questions down the road, if I feel the need to do so I will not hesitate. I am not a trained teacher and if I have the chance to pick the brains of the experts I won't pass it up.
I tell you about my difficulties but for every challenging student I have plenty more successes. Like everything else, there's a whole lot of good and a whole lot of bad.
Sincerely,
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AgentMulderUK

Joined: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 360 Location: Concrete jungle (Tokyo)
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry about it Sweetsee. We all have bad days - and it sounds like you are having more bad days than the rest of us put together! |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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I will try to have more patience with you, Sweetsee. Sorry for being so harsh.
You do bring up a good point about not being afraid to admit your own faults. That is a good quality to have. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I thought this thread was dead. I know. It's not?
Thank you AgentMulderUK. Your kind words made my day.
You too, Gordon. Thanks a lot. When I first posted here you harshed me out and later apologized. Then, you let me have it again and now you have apologized again.
We all don't have all the answers. We all are in this together. Pity we sometimes get down on one another. Yet, the true measure of any person is that person's ability to say sorry, to admit their mistakes and to give kind words for others.
Thanks you guys. Your comments will go a long way to restore my faith in our cause. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 4:36 am Post subject: |
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From Sweetsee's previous threads...
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I am an ALT at a Tokyo public night school. Very, very laid back.
I started at eikaiwa and picked up a public school job, then another and spent 9 years as an ALT at public school and eikaiwa together. |
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it's more like 12 years and every day is a new beginning. |
My apologies for saying you have been here almost 20 years... sheesh! [please note sarcasm]
Sweetsee's admitted teaching faults, despite all of this time teaching here:
No classroom management skills.
No disciplinary skills.
No test making skills.
Weak lesson planning/creating skills.
Weak activity management/planning skills (at the most basic level).
What have you learned in all of this time?
Recent posts by Sweetsee:
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I was put off by both Glenski's and Gordon's comments and overreactted. They didn't really say anything wrong, just that if they don't have anything productive to post than why post at all? |
Yeah, yeah. You always pull that excuse of overreacting. It has worn out its welcome with me.
As has the inane comment that what I post is not productive. My remarks are for those who have not had the "pleasure" of dealing with your previous super-edited scatterbrained posts. Forewarned is forearmed. That is productive (to others, not to you).
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Yes, asked class management questions before but for whatever reasons I wanted to again. Fair enough? |
No, not to me. The advice was crystal clear before. You admitted it was good advice. Why bring up the same issue again?
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unlike others on this forum, I am willing to air the difficulties I experience and unafraid to admit that I don't know how best to conduct my lessons. |
Untrue. Others do this as well. You just won't take constructive advice when it is thrust upon you.
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I am not a trained teacher and if I have the chance to pick the brains of the experts I won't pass it up. |
After you pick the brains of the experts, take the advice. Don't resurrect the same questions. And, definitely don't bite the hands of those (experts) that feed you!
Just let me repeat a question... since you admit you are not a trained teacher, what did you learn in the 12 years that you have been here? Or, put another way, how could you have missed such basic skills in all that time? Awaiting serious reply... |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Ahh Glenski,
You read me like a book, a very bad one at that. Yes, it's true. I am a bumbling idiot that has not managed to learn any of the skills needed to teach English in 12 plus years as an ALT/language school employee.
I believe I did mention that I was an ALT(American Language Tape-recorder), something you have conveniently overlooked in your assault.
And having said that it would be understood that the responsibilities of lesson planning, discipline, class management and evaluation fell squarely on the shoulders of the Japanese teacher, hence all but non-existant. Considering the non-subject status of English in this country, this comes as no surprise.
That is not to say that I didn't work my tail off trying to motivate the masses of disinterested, unmotivated, lazy young people in my classes to speak English. I was often appalled at the lack of effort and discipline in my classes but felt powerless to do anything about it. Not that I didn't want to.
I also worked full-time the whole time at a small language school near my place, little chance of learning the skills I need now there.
In short, I am in my second year as a full-time private high school English conversation teacher. I am experiencing severe behavioral problems on a daily basis and want to learn the skills to create an effective learning environment.
I repeat: you are either part of the problem or the solution.
Which is it?
Respectfully yours,
sweetsee
P.S. I brought the issue up again because I have no one to discuss it with and enjoy hearing from others.
P.P.S. One of the leaders in the gang-o-nine has fallen out with yet another member who has subsequently not been coming to school. JTE gave the entire class a mouthful the other day and after took 2 girls aside. The one told him what has happened in the past is old news and what is happening now is she hates the two of us, and that's it. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I believe I did mention that I was an ALT(American Language Tape-recorder), something you have conveniently overlooked in your assault. |
In my opinion, that doesn't matter one bit. Twelve years is twelve years. You, my dear, are the one who is part of the problem by not learning anything in that time. Even in your first year at the high school, you should've picked up something. Excuses, excuses.
As for me being part of the problem... look at that old thread. I think you will find that I offered more than my share of advice. |
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