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James_T_Kirk
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Location: Ten Forward
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| I got on this thread a bit late, but if there are still any Americans reading, I want to know why you didnt walk the olympic basketball gold. |
USA Basketball was clueless when they put that team together. There were no pure shooters on that team, and that's what really hurt them (that, and the fact that they barely played together before the Olympics). It just simply wasn't a team built for playing the international style of basketball.
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| No gold for America basketball! This American is glad they didn't win. They shouldn't have even got the bronze. Too many c o c k y, over paid, 'showboats' that have ruined the game! |
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ContemporaryDog
Joined: 21 May 2003
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Location: Wuhan, China
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| warm lager . |
Now that is a stupid (and ignorant) misconception
The only places I've had warm lager have been night clubs in China and France, where they have cans stashed at the side and just pass them to you. I have never, ever drunk warm lager in the UK. Pub lager is cold. People keep cans of lager in their fridge. The only instance where I might be drawn to drink warm lager is at the end of a picnic on ahot day when there's been nowhere to keep it cold.
The beer that IS drunk warm is bitter. It is designed to be drunk warm. It is NOT a lager by any stretch of the imagination. Nobody drinks warm lager. Get it? |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 5:26 am Post subject: It's no good telling them that! |
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| The beer that IS drunk warm is bitter. It is designed to be drunk warm. It is NOT a lager by any stretch of the imagination. Nobody drinks warm lager. Get it? |
As General Melchett said to Lieutenant George in Blackadder Goes Forth (BBC TV, 1989), "It's no use telling them that (sic)! You might as well try and tell them the good points of a forward defensive stroke!"
In other words, it's no use telling some people if an alcoholic beverage should be warm or cold when imbibed. They can't tell the b****y difference, so why bother? |
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arodeorowdy
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Location: Shenzhen, China
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I got on this thread a bit late, but if there are still any Americans reading, I want to know why you didnt walk the olympic basketball gold. |
It's simple, the best and most talented players in the NBA don't have the time or it's simply not worth it to them to represent their country in the Olympics. It sounds unpatriotic, but think about it. They, the most talented of the NBA, are under VERY EXPENSIVE contracts, how many soccer players IN THE WHOLE WORLD get paid as much as a "bench warmer" in the NBA?, and can't or don't want to take a chance of getting hurt or injured playing in the Olympics. And for what? A gold trophy? And the other countries that sent teams to the Olympics DID SEND their best.
The WHOLE WORLD knows that the best and most TALENTED basketball players COME FROM AMERICA!!! And a sprinkling of other countries.
Nothing more to prove! The Olympic Basketball games are for the rest of the world to try AND PROVE... WHO'S # 2! 
Cheers, Rowdy |
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peabody
Joined: 19 Dec 2004
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Location: sydney
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guty
Joined: 10 Apr 2003
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Location: on holiday
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[quote]how many soccer players IN THE WHOLE WORLD get paid as much as a "bench warmer" in the NBA?, [/quote]
After an interesting incident at an Englih midtable football chritmas party a fairly run of the mill player was fined six weeks wages, $250,000, thats $3m a year for someone who would make the bench of the top clubs. Italian and Spanih clubs pay similar wages, and the odd German, and a few other stars outide those places.
So hundreds, or possibly thousands.
Nice work if you can get it. |
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arodeorowdy
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Well Peabody - since you come from the land down under you PROBABLY wouldn't know what it's liked to "knocked", because Oz doesn't do anything and so you have nothing to stand up to defend. That's why you don't understand.
Now the US, being the "King of the Hill" is always getting "knocked". It''s a natural phenomenon to want to stand up for ones pride, country, ideals or people....but being from Oz, or any other minor country (nothing wrong about being a minor country)...so you just wouldn't understand.
Can you name just one country that has had a larger IMPACT over the world SINCE THE ROMAN EMPIRE!? Our Food, Music, Culture, Clothes, Language, Movies, Entertainers, Technology, Ect., for good or for worse (can anyone spell Micky D's) has COVERED the globe. Or a country that has attracted more immigrants, from every corner of the world? That's right, The US of A. That's why, my world wide friends, we are PROUD AND NOT SHY TO ADMIT IT!
No country is perfect, but if you look back through the last 200 years of history, The US of A has been the most peacefull and giving country, of any of the world's players.
America IS A country of individuals. Many ( and this doesn't even need to be said, except for the slow ones here) of the worlds best and brightest came to America over the last 200 years so they COULD BE FREE TO BE INDIVIDUALS. Americans are not conformists, but were are Proud of our country and many of US don't stand by when barbs are thrown our way...but you wouldn't understand.
Above are just a few of the reasons why we are the way we are. . My father is an immigrant from Mexico and my mother's father is a German immigrant, but no matter what the world thinks of America now or in the in the future, I'll always be PROUD to be an American and not meek to admit it.
Now that being said, for the last 6 years I've been traveling around the world, exploring and to find a better place to live. All the while spending as little time as possible in America, because quite frankly, I don't like to live there. And trust me I've tried to. Two reasons why: the Automobile & Litigious Culture. Since '90 I've lived in 10 states and traveled thru all 50, most of them several times. In '98 I headed overseas for my first time and have focused on exploring the world to find a better place to live. The jury is still out on whether I can be happy in China.
Cheers, Rowdy
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ContemporaryDog
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No country is perfect, but if you look back through the last 200 years of history, The US of A has been the most peacefull and giving country, of any of the world's players.
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Rubbish. The US has been indirectly responsible for all manner of mass slaughter over the last 100 years. Its just that you get others to do your dirty work. Usually because the people they are mass murdering and slaughtering just happen to be 'carrmmies' or whatever. |
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ContemporaryDog
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 10:19 am Post subject: Re: It's no good telling them that! |
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As General Melchett said to Lieutenant George in Blackadder Goes Forth (BBC TV, 1989), "It's no use telling them that (sic)! You might as well try and tell them the good points of a forward defensive stroke!"
In other words, it's no use telling some people if an alcoholic beverage should be warm or cold when imbibed. They can't tell the b****y difference, so why bother? |
Fair enough. But i just took exception to the notion that British people tended to drink lager warm when i have only ever come across warm lager in other countries. |
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Will.
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A bit of support for CD.
What a shame Americans are underexposed to the 'warm beer' story.
It is one of those stories brought back by servicemen in the wars.
Even more unfortunate is their understanding of beer = lager.
The two are completely different brewing processes.
So why do people drink it at room temperature?
Because it is nice to drunk it like that
Try drinking warm American lager.
Please don't confuse the two.
Try beer. |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:13 am Post subject: OK! |
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OK!
[Just thought I'd add just the one word as a final line to the above dissertation by Will there.] |
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homersimpson
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Location: Kagoshima
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:30 am Post subject: |
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arodeorowdy wrote:
No country is perfect, but if you look back through the last 200 years of history, The US of A has been the most peacefull and giving country, of any of the world's players.
Rubbish. The US has been indirectly responsible for all manner of mass slaughter over the last 100 years. Its just that you get others to do your dirty work. Usually because the people they are mass murdering and slaughtering just happen to be 'carrmmies' or whatever. |
Really? Cite some examples. What other country provides more aid internationally than the U.S.? You're right, the U.S. does often get others to fight its dirty work. That's the main reason America did not participate in either WWI or WWII. And why Napoleon's reign of terror lasted as long as it did, with U.S. tacit approval. Let us not forget the Roman Empire, financed almost entirely behind-the-scenes by the then CIA. |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:52 am Post subject: Manipulators in conflicts |
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| America did not participate in either WWI or WWII. |
Pardon?!
Unless, of course, you're being sarcastic, which I think you must be. I can understand the sarcasm, though.
We can be cynical about saying that the U.S. "gets others to do its dirty work", but, when it comes to wars and who fights whom, given the vested interests involved, we can pretty much become cynical about anything.
However, very few wars in history, especially since the Napoleonic Wars started in 1793, have involved just one side, consisting of people from one country, fighting the enemy, consisting of people from just one country. And, even here, one could say that the main player on one side is simply "using" another player in order to further its own goals.
The Cold War was replete with "hot" wars where the USSR and the USA actively supported countries on both sides. One can say here that these "superpowers" were using these other countries to do their "dirty" work; for example, the Korean and Vietnam Wars - in each case, it was the Communist North invading and fighting the U.S.-supported South.
Even China, which had only been recently been taken over by the Communists, was hoping for a North Korean victory over the South, yet felt in no position to send its own troops into the Korean peninsula. On the other hand, General MacArthur wanted U.N. troops to invade China precisely because of its government's tacit support for the Communist side in the Korean War, yet President Truman was having none of it and so fired him as Commander-in-Chief of the U.N. forces in Korea.
The U.S. is by no means unique in this respect, therefore. |
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Cardinal Synn
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arodeorowdy wrote:
No country is perfect, but if you look back through the last 200 years of history, The US of A has been the most peacefull and giving country, of any of the world's players.
Rubbish. The US has been indirectly responsible for all manner of mass slaughter over the last 100 years. Its just that you get others to do your dirty work. Usually because the people they are mass murdering and slaughtering just happen to be 'carrmmies' or whatever. |
Really? Cite some examples. What other country provides more aid internationally than the U.S.? You're right, the U.S. does often get others to fight its dirty work. That's the main reason America did not participate in either WWI or WWII. And why Napoleon's reign of terror lasted as long as it did, with U.S. tacit approval. Let us not forget the Roman Empire, financed almost entirely behind-the-scenes by the then CIA. |
Sarcasm can look an awful lot like ignorance. That paragraph is such a jumble!
As you wanted some examples of mass slaughter over the last 100 years....I'm not sure why as they are many and you must already be aware of them.
Mass slaughter - Dozens of German cities destroyed ( in partnership with the RAF - the british have also slaughtered lots of people over the last 100 years), killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.
Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki. Oh come on, you know the figures surely? There are many many more but I'll stop there.
It's so pointless throwing stones at each other like this.
" America's great, Britains bad"
" No, Britain's brilliant and America's sh1te"
Blah blah blah.
Do you really give a donkey's knobcheese what some anonymous poster thinks of your country? |
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homersimpson
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| I guess you guys got my point! I think it takes a lot of balls to bemoan a country that has been around for less than 250 years for all the world's problems. It's laughable. The U.S. is evil, the U.S. is this/that/ etc. You (collectively) controlled the world prior to America's existence. What share of responsibility do you hold? And, like any empire, America will eventually collapse, then who will you b*tch about, the Chinese? |
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