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31



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps Dagi meant to say real teacher.
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dmb



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok Iam not trying to put anyone down. Prefessionalism begins with attitude. Who is more of a real teacher? Teacher who has done their PGCE or equivalent and plays games all day long with 5 year olds. OR a graduate with CELTA, MA and teaches for example Academic writing at a University? To me both of these could be real teachers or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be teaching academic writing at a real university or a private university like Yeditepe and co?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb, you are right. I meant to say that I did study at uni to become a teacher and certainly not that there are no professional TEFL teachers.
Some of my collegues who all have at least a B.A. in Ed. and most of them have a M.A. in Ed. are not professional at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

31 wrote:
Would that be teaching academic writing at a real university or a private university like Yeditepe and co?
What was I saying about attitude? I have worked at a private uni, and worked with many professional teachers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt that accountants, engineers and state school teachers debate whether they are real or professional, it goes without saying. Yet EFL does. A famous AA quote goes something like this:

People who aren`t alcoholics don`t wake up at 4am wondering if they are alcoholics.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think that i have ever woke up at 4am wondering if i was a teacher. Had many thoughts at the time in the morning but never that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

31 wrote:
Perhaps Dagi meant to say real teacher.


what do you mean with real teacher? what makes a real techer? how can you understand that someone is an unreal teacher?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come across a few unreal teachers over the years as in
So remarkable as to elicit disbelief; fantastic Very Happy Def. from dictionary.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In one of the language schools I worked in, we officially did not exist because we didn't have work permits/ikamet, and so did not appear on the bordro (sp?), the board that hangs up in some office, showing the names of all official employees and how much tax they're paying. When the Milli Egitim showed up, we were carted off for the day. So I suppose I was slightly unreal then.
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whynotme



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no not unreal teacher "imaginary" is a better word for your status Smile
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