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[31]

Perhaps Dagi meant to say real teacher.

[dmb]

ok Iam not trying to put anyone down. Prefessionalism begins with attitude. Who is more of a real teacher? Teacher who has done their PGCE or equivalent and plays games all day long with 5 year olds. OR a graduate with CELTA, MA and teaches for example Academic writing at a University? To me both of these could be real teachers or not.

[31]

Would that be teaching academic writing at a real university or a private university like Yeditepe and co?

[dagi]

dmb, you are right. I meant to say that I did study at uni to become a teacher and certainly not that there are no professional TEFL teachers.
Some of my collegues who all have at least a B.A. in Ed. and most of them have a M.A. in Ed. are not professional at all.

[dmb]

[31]

I doubt that accountants, engineers and state school teachers debate whether they are real or professional, it goes without saying. Yet EFL does. A famous AA quote goes something like this:

People who aren`t alcoholics don`t wake up at 4am wondering if they are alcoholics.

[dmb]

I dont think that i have ever woke up at 4am wondering if i was a teacher. Had many thoughts at the time in the morning but never that one.

[whynotme]

[dmb]

I've come across a few unreal teachers over the years as in
So remarkable as to elicit disbelief; fantastic Def. from dictionary.com

[Golightly]

In one of the language schools I worked in, we officially did not exist because we didn't have work permits/ikamet, and so did not appear on the bordro (sp?), the board that hangs up in some office, showing the names of all official employees and how much tax they're paying. When the Milli Egitim showed up, we were carted off for the day. So I suppose I was slightly unreal then.

[whynotme]

no not unreal teacher "imaginary" is a better word for your status

[31]

Never seen a bordro (sp) at English Time. If there was one it wouldn`t have enough names on it to staff all the branches.

[Frizzie Lizzie]

Going back to the subject title, TEFL IS a career for me, and I AM a "real" teacher , even though I haven't always been legal and was forced to do border runs - fault of the school...

[31]

ET illegals do so many border runs they should just hire a coach every 3 months and do it properly. But then that would mean planning and organising which are not their strong points unless its marketing and getting the money out of the students. They do that very well.

[31]

I will not skank money off TEFLers. Lord knows they get ripped off enough and that is not just in their pay packets.