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How much do you earn?
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How much do you earn monthly?
Less than 4000rmb
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
4000 to 4999rmb
18%
 18%  [ 18 ]
5000 to 5999rmb
9%
 9%  [ 9 ]
6000 to 6999rmb
7%
 7%  [ 7 ]
7000 to 7999rmb
9%
 9%  [ 9 ]
8000 to 8999rmb
5%
 5%  [ 5 ]
9000 to 9999rmb
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
10,000 to 12,500rmb
17%
 17%  [ 17 ]
12,501 to 15,000rmb
3%
 3%  [ 3 ]
More?!?
21%
 21%  [ 21 ]
Total Votes : 99

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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Posts: 5880
Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's interesting that, to date, we have 61 responders and almost half claim earnings of 10K or more! So, with this "unofficial" poll seeming to lose steam now, the "big buck" jobs are out there. I've recently seen adverts for 12,000 to 18,000 jobs (one job). Check out:

http://www.eslteachersboard.com/

You might find your own high-paying job! Smile
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wailing_imam



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 580
Location: Malaya

PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3,000 SGD a month (15,000RMB) + Perks for a four month stint in China.

Have five years TEFL experience. This is my job.

The other teachers here are first timers, teach hardly anything and get paid 4,500 a month, which is what they deserve.
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JAZ



Joined: 22 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a BA and am a qualified primary school teacher.

I earn 21000RMB per month, after tax.
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Yu



Joined: 06 Mar 2003
Posts: 1219
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I inculded my housing allowance in the total I am paid.
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OGFT



Joined: 24 Jun 2006
Posts: 432

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just been offered a full time job from being picked up in the morning at 7:30 taken to work and teach as many periods needed with a luch and study hall break, not too bad, off work at 3:30 and a bus ride back..long way ...over an hour to commute but the chance to study because it is a confortable school bus...Math is the subject.....15000RMB....with two week break and one week off between terms. All paid...

I haven taken it yet but will decide tomorrow.
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lf_aristotle69



Joined: 06 May 2006
Posts: 546
Location: HangZhou, China

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: ESL? Or, ALL? Reply with quote

Voldermort wrote:
This was a simple poll for the base salary of forum users' salaries. Why is it most people have to start going on about their location and accomodation and all those extra perks that come with a job? All we want to know is what salary is on your contract and that you agreed to work for?

I am in the 6000 range. If anybody wants to get particular about it, I should also note that I teach 5 hours a week and prepare for any number of hours from 5 to 30, depending on how lazy I want to be.


Hi,

I think it's valid that people are saying the poll has little value as a real measuring stick of the salaries of ESL teachers in China.

I note that Maths teachers and others are adding their votes. I think there are some professional teachers on specialised programs adding their info as well including Foundation course and International school teachers.

So, what does that have to do with basic ESL teaching salaries that the poll was surely intended to measure?

Hence it should really only be looked at for the more informative comments that readers are leaving.

I'm not rubbishing the basic idea Kevin. Just that the logistics of doing it properly are not feasible here.

I think if factors such as: hours taught, preparation requirements, holiday and completion bonuses, housing, and location are not factored in then it's like chalk and cheese.

I will not add my vote as I am employed as a 1st year university English program manager by an international partner of a special sub-section (double normal Uni fees for our students) of a Chinese university. So, I don't think mine's a relevant value.

The locally employed foreign teachers make much less than I do. But, it's enough for them to be able to save US$2-3000 a year (if they live frugally, and I've seen it done without the person being a hermit!) because the location is cheap to live in. We all get free on campus accommodation. And, we get a free trip to YangShuo for a students' oral English practice week, with not too much work involved it it either. The job is quite a busy one though, but the students generally take it seriously and so classes are productive.

For the record in previous jobs I have earned 7000-8000RMB/mth as a Maths/IT/Study skills teacher on a Uni prep course 20 hours a weeks teaching, originally on arrival in China at ShangHai in 2002, and later in HeBei near BeiJing. Both had free accomodation. And, I have earned an average 4-5000RMB/mth teaching Conversational English and IELTS training in ChangChun in 2004 for 10-20 hours a week, free accommodation for the first half of the 8 months I was there. That was after the 10000RMB/mth job, that took me to ChangChun, fell through before it even began! Doh! But, I had a pretty good time in ChangChun all the same.

It seems that many kindergarten ESL jobs offer >=10000RMB/mth.
How many hours is that usually?

Seems like easy money, but after doing some part-time work at an English training centre I know I don't have the right skills and personality to teach any kids under about 8 years old.

I'm a Bachelor of Education - High School Maths and Science, by the way.

I will probably get into the International school system eventually, but I'm enjoying what I'm doing for now.

By the way, if anyone is looking for a job where you are not just the performing clown then please send me a personal message and I'll put you in touch with the recruiting officer of this University.

Ciao!

LFA
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Damo22



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 74

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just finished teaching - don't intend to continue. This was my first 'job' out of uni.

I was earning 5000 (month) as my basic wage. On top of this I was making just under 2000 a month from private work. So, all in all, I had a monthly wage of about 7000RMB. I also had a rent free flat, payed no electricity or water bills. I was still working far fewer hours than I will do in the west (when I return after travels). I was working in a town about an hours drive from Shanghai (city centre).
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mondrian



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Posts: 658
Location: "was that beautiful coastal city in the NE of China"

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Re: ESL? Or, ALL? Reply with quote

lf_aristotle69 wrote:


I note that Maths teachers and others are adding their votes. I think there are some professional teachers on specialised programs adding their info as well including Foundation course and International school teachers.

So, what does that have to do with basic ESL teaching salaries that the poll was surely intended to measure?

Hence it should really only be looked at for the more informative comments that readers are leaving.


Yes, I agree.
When I first came to China it was to teach Academic English (all four components) at 10,000RMB a month. That was for 25 hours a week, with about 4 hours additional preparation time. The school stipulated that we had to be in the office Mon-Fri if we were not teaching. So it was a 40 hour a week job. Occasional weekend promotion and publicity jaunts in other cities. Then I moved across to teaching Foundation science in English: 15 hours a week BUT about 20 hours a week preparation time. For that I got 17,000RMB a month (which is average for specialist teachers here in China). Plus an apartment allowance plus airfare and Chinese holidays (only).
Now I teach oral English for 8,000Rmb for 14 hours a week. No preparation time, just remembering or rereading lesson plans of all the years of such teaching in the past and picking out what I think will work again.
It is such an easy (and sometimes interesting) life!! The Foundation science teaching was not!
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kev7161



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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Location: Suzhou, China

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see this thread was revived! No, the basic premise of this poll (any poll, really) is just to get a general idea. All the extras, perks, side jobs, etc. should be and have been put down in individual responses. Just like any poll, you have to take the results with a grain of salt, but it is clear that there ARE higher paying jobs out there AND some many are working the lower paying ones and some are seemingly happy about it. More power to everyone who enjoys their job and enjoys their pay, whether it be at the lower, middle, or higher end of the scale.
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gengrant



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Posts: 153
Location: Ningbo - Beilun District

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Hey, Gengrant, there are some of us similarly qualified and experienced who've chosen not to work in international schools. We would have stayed at home if that was the educulture we wanted. I went to China to teach Chinese kids, not rich laowai.
However, home is where I am now, earning much more than 30,000 rmb.
The bills are bigger, but the weather's better, as is the the air, the media......I could go on.


SuperMario, one thing I failed to mention was the reason for doing what I'm doing: my 3 year old daughter is of Chinese descent and this is the best time for her to learn Chinese and become bilingual.

I taught "at home" as well, and was earning much more than 30k RMB also, but I wouldn't trade my experience with the IS for more money back home-any day.

I've also taught Chinese kids (2 years EFL) in 2002 and 2005, but again, prefer to get paid what I'm worth and provide for my family while giving my daughter the opportunities in her "home" country both culturally and linguistically.

Having said that, I do agree that this thread is most likely for those NOT in IS, but I just wanted to add my comments and info.

Peace.
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Horizontal Hero



Joined: 26 Mar 2004
Posts: 2492
Location: The civilised little bit of China.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I allowed to vote, since I'm in Hong Kong (it's one country, you know)? But I'm on a low NET salary here - almost 20 000 less a month than some. Still, I earn well over ten times as much as some people have written here - and probably do only 2 or 3 times as much work. But I'm bitchin' about the holidays - only about ten weeks a year, fully paid.
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Damo22



Joined: 15 Nov 2005
Posts: 74

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it that, although the members of this forum feel qualified to discuss international politics, the state of China and the world in general, any discussion concerning their own profession is dismissed as �unscientific� or just stupid. I noticed a while ago that someone mentioned how much money was made �of his back�. The response from his fellow teachers� �Nothing to do with us�. One poster even claimed that no one here is �qualified� to discuss the economics of running a school. It�s funny that important questions such as �what is an acceptable sallary� are dismissed as �newbish� or irrelevent whilst at the same time we have threads running into hundreds of pages trying to analyse the state of the world and all its complexities�
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cubit



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Changchun

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This year I have been making 6000 RMB, about half of what I was making last year in Guangzhou. I moved up here because I wanted to practice my Mandarin and I wanted to work with a small struggling company to see what I could do with it.

I have accepted a position for the next school year back in Guangzhou for 15,000 RMB per month with 12 contact hours per week, but other work on top of that.


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yamahuh



Joined: 23 Apr 2004
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Location: Karaoke Hell

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubit wrote:
I have excepted a position for the next school year back in Guangzhou for 15,000 RMB per month with 12 contact hours per week, but other work on top of that.


What other work on top are you having to do?
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cubit



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
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Location: Changchun

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yamahuh asked:
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What other work on top are you having to do?


My share of management duty (large company, four foreign managers). Ex: Hiring FTs, observing classes, program development, etc...

Come to think of it, the extra stuff will probably be the harder work because by now the teaching is a snap, especially with the program they use.
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