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misteradventure
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 Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: he who lives in glass houses... |
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| neveah wrote: |
Your rude comments were not helpful and not neccessary. I am speaking from my own personal experience. I asked the questions because I wanted more information. I was not trying to be rude, so you did not have to be condescending and self-righteous. I don't think that I'm better than foreigners just because I am an African-American. You are not better than me just because you are not American, so drop the nasty attitude.
I want to say thanks to all of the polite people that gave helpful advice. I am certified to teach high school language arts. Do you think that would help me? |
More specifically to the point, teaching ESL requires a level of cultural sensitivity not commonly known in the USA. It also requires a fairly thick skin. Regardless of colour.
I noticed that the poster played the 'ethnicity' card in this exchange relatively early on. It will not earn you any points in Scandinavia. There are many refugees of African descent who are keen on learning languages and you would have the greater challenge of not only dealing with :xenophobia from a predominantly light-skinned culture
Being treated like a 'stuck-up refugee' who should be grateful that Sweden/Norway/wherever was generous enough to give you a home, etc.
Being treated like a moron by some of the aforementioned refugees for not only not being able to speak Swedish fluently, but also lacking ability in Swahili and/or Arabic (assuming this is the case.)
Before you decide to venture overseas, you may wish to read, "The Ugly American", by WILLIAM J. LEDERER AND EUGENE BURDICK.
THe question is considered 'cute' because it shows a lack of in-depth study of the existing knowledge on the forum. The reason the Newbie Forum exists is... ah, nevermind.
Unemployment is extremely low in EEA countries and work permits very difficult to get. I have a Master's degree and am fluent in Swedish and was told that, if I decided to do my PhD., I might have a chance to get some teaching positions reserved for candidates in University.
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Theriel
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Location: Helsinki, Finland
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One possible option is to get a student visa for studying for your MA. That's how I got in and can legally teach, and the maximum amount of hours isn't bad at 25 per week. Most teachers don't work much more than that. And at least here in Finland, if you graduate from a Finnish University, as an incentive for you to stay, they give you an automatic residence permit if you find any job.
Furthermore, universities in Nordic Europe are free, so the only cost you have to take care of is your own survival, which is, however, not easy. The acceptance rate is about 7-12% for most universities. That being said, it's at least one possibility to get here, if not an easy one.
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poro
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Furthermore, universities in Nordic Europe are free |
Not just in northern Europe. So far as I know, we all believe in developing human capital, and don't charge for higher education.
Except for a small few |
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john_n_carolina
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poro
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...meaning European countries don't generally charge for college education in the way that US colleges do. Most of us charge human development to the common budget, not just nordic countries. |
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hollysuel
Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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Location: Connecticut, USA
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...meaning European countries don't generally charge for college education in the way that US colleges do. Most of us charge human development to the common budget, not just nordic countries. |
Doesn't the UK also charge tuition now? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| yes, British universities charge tuition not to mention that German universities have raised their fees. Mainly due to the fact that some studies study for many years and they are taking up the place of other students in certain classes. |
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poro
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Doesn't the UK also charge tuition now? |
Yes, they are said to charge $2.000 a year, or something close to it.
On the other hand, no one would say they were European in mind or spirit, so they don't really count in the general array. |
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GF
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| poro wrote: |
| hollysuel wrote: |
Doesn't the UK also charge tuition now? |
On the other hand, no one would say they were European in mind or spirit, so they don't really count in the general array. |
I think Brits would find this insulting. |
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poro
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I think Brits would find this insulting. |
Why?
It isn't intended to be insulting, btw. |
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