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MO39

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Posts: 1970 Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree - it does. How about (with a slight addition), "Dave'saholic"? |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:55 am Post subject: "Dave's a holic"? |
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| MO39 wrote: |
| I agree - it does. How about (with a slight addition), "Dave'saholic"? |
"Dave's a holic"? What's a "holic"? Pray tell! (It had better be a nice word or else Dave might feel insulted or aggrieved! ) |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: |
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The internet has alienated us. Its advent helped to usher in the
uncaring world. Seems to be common behavior for neighbors to pass eachother without a word, nod or the slightest acknowledgement. This behavior can also be found on the streets, the workplace and even in the home. I will never get used to it.
So sad, really. Perhaps, it is because I grew up in the late 60's in Southern California. What happened? |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Sweetsee wrote: |
| The internet has alienated us. Seems to be common behavior for neighbors to pass eachother without a word, nod or the slightest acknowledgement. This behavior can also be found on the streets, the workplace and even in the home. |
People acted like this long before the internet. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Not just around here? |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: Don't blame the internet |
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| Sweetsee wrote: |
The internet has alienated us. Its advent helped to usher in the uncaring world. Seems to be common behavior for neighbors to pass eachother without a word, nod or the slightest acknowledgement. This behavior can also be found on the streets, the workplace and even in the home. I will never get used to it.
So sad, really. Perhaps, it is because I grew up in the late 60's in Southern California. What happened? |
As ls650 has said, people started exhibiting apathy and an uncaring attitude towards our neighbours long before the internet came into being in the late 1980s (thank you, Tim Berners-Lee!). If anything, the internet has become, amongst other things, another excuse for isolationist tendencies amongst individuals to be heightened. If people genuinely do not want anything to do with others unless they absolutely have to, they will avoid them, just as they have always done.
There have been lonely, isolated people as long as the human race has existed, and so it is no good blaming any piece of technology for the displaying of such attitudes. One might as well say that the introduction of television was to blame for the "uncaring" attitudes of people from the 1950s onwards in that such people would prefer to stay at home and watch TV simply because they found the outside world more fascinating than the one they inhabited.
Technology is a tool - and so must be considered "neutral" in a debate like this. It depends on what people make of it! And what people make of it is usually their own business, yet it would be sheer folly to blame it for allegedly helping people to foster attitudes which are already in existence and very much part of the human psyche, which has changed relatively little in millennia. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Mr. Crossley.
I feel like the posterboy for Daveaholicism.
It's this and coffee right now, that's it.
ODAAT |
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merlin

Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 582 Location: Somewhere between Camelot and NeverNeverLand
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| yeah, the internet is purely neutral in how people treat each other. You go where you want to go, read what you want to read and even interpret things how you want to interpret them. So someone might interpret it as people just getting together and bla bla bla-ing in a very artificial and superficial way while another person might see the internet as a way to really connect and stay in tune to whole sections of the population about what they REALLy think in a way impossible with someone you know face to face. There are other psycological-subconcious aspects of the internet that I find a thousand times healthier than other media. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:28 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to retract that statement I made about the internet.
And thank you two for those enlightening posts, honestly.
Enjoy yourselves,
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nomadder

Joined: 15 Feb 2003 Posts: 709 Location: Somewherebetweenhereandthere
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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| New problem-people living in another reality. Read about this recently especially being a problem in China-people virtually living on the internet. I imagine some people would even have 2 personas- internet and real life. |
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valley_girl

Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 272 Location: Somewhere in Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:22 am Post subject: |
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I can quit any time I like.
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| New problem-people living in another reality. Read about this recently especially being a problem in China-people virtually living on the internet. I imagine some people would even have 2 personas- internet and real life. |
I imagine you are right, nomadder. People aren't always as they seem online. The cyber world is a vast ocean of unknown entities. Scary. |
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Sweetsee

Joined: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 2302 Location: ) is everything
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: |
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One would almost have to believe that people that spend a lot of time online, do so because they are unable to hang otherwise.
My coworker for example, sitting there surfing all day but can not even make the slightest attempt at conversation, let alone a greeting. I suppose that for younger folks growing up during the internet age that behavior is normal, they are unaware?
That would explain it. |
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canuck

Joined: 11 May 2003 Posts: 1921 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| What would the treatment be? |
Going to a forum like GaijinPot? No thanks. The cafe has it's moments throughout the day.
| Sweetsee wrote: |
One would almost have to believe that people that spend a lot of time online, do so because they are unable to hang otherwise.
My coworker for example, sitting there surfing all day but can not even make the slightest attempt at conversation, let alone a greeting. |
More and more people are choosing to spend time online rather than do other activities that they have done in the past. For example, instead of spending an hour watching the news and two hours watching a movie, they might spend three hours online. How does that make them "unable to hang otherwise."
Many people have coworkers that they wish didn't work there or wish not to speak to. Your coworker might harbor similar feelings toward you. That could be an explanation.
For someone complaining about people who spend a lot of time online, you seem to have quite a few posts here! Care to give your self diagnosis? |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:31 am Post subject: |
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And you canuck?
I like Dave's, but it can addictive. I tend to got through cycles, where when I am traveling or busy in the semester, I only often come on to ask more teaching related questions.
Now with the uni break, I'm working a much lighter schedule and can put in time here if I'd like. I also spend some time on some travel advice forums, but those are specifically to get info only. I go here for some amusing chat and info. And I even listen to my wife sometimes..  |
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