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Stephen Jones
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| The tests are done twice over. Once to get the visa, and then again to get the work permit. |
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eclectic
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WTF?? Twice over? What are we, omelettes? Or is that "sunny-side up"?
I got the prliminary contract, and now to get the visa I thought I'd just have to submit college transcripts/med reports in DC, USA. So thats just the 1st step? Then on arrival another round of needles and stools and whatever ? Holy Cow!@ |
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Kalima Shahada
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Location: I live in a house, but my home is in the stable.
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| omerta777 wrote: |
| Anyone who thinks the medical part only costs $500 is not telling the truth. I got a quote about a eyar ago and it was going to cost me around $1500. I did it this time with 100% medical coverage. |
B.S. I paid about $170 US dollars for everything (blood test, x-ray, urine, stool sample, physical exam etc.) and that's without any medical coverage to help with the cost. The United States has extremely high costs for anything medical. The same exam in almost any other country will cost much less. That's been my experience anyway. |
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Kalima Shahada
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| scot47 wrote: |
| The only medical where I had to provide a stool sample was for the Airline. That was a rigorous test and I assume the stool sample was to determine whether or not I used drugs. |
I have never heard of a drug test using a stool sample. Hair sample, yes!
The stool sample is to check for parasites, schisto, salm, snigella and cholera. And don't ask me what some of them mean because I'm not a doctor. I just looked at my medical report. |
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Kalima Shahada
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| rjbsd wrote: |
| I am in Houston, and agonizing over the same questions about cholera and malaria. My doctor said she would say "not applicable" on those tests. I have a call in to my visa processor to see what she says to do. |
You can always try, but if the embassy insists on having a 'negative' stamp, for those tests, you will get rejected and have a strong tongue lashing to deal with, especially if you try to challenge their authority. |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| The United States has extremely high costs for anything medical. The same exam in almost any other country will cost much less. That's been my experience anyway. |
I paid just under $25 for the medical in Colombo (a fixed price for medicals for anywhere in the Gulf).
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WTF?? Twice over? What are we, omelettes? |
The reason is that the Saudi government no longer trusts the medicals from other countries, or feels they may be out of date. You could say that the obvious solution would be just to do the medical once in Saudi, but that would mean a lot of people giving up their job to fly over and find themselves rejected, with the consequent expense both for them and the employer. |
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johnslat
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear Stephen,
" . . . the obvious solution would be just to do the medical once in Saudi, . . ."
I believe that's how it's done in the UAE, isn't it?
Regards,
John |
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Stephen Jones
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe that's how it's done in the UAE, isn't it? |
Only if you're in on a tourist visa I believe. If you come in on a work visa I think you do the medical; the one in Sri Lanka is common for all GCC countries. I can ask people there who went over to the Emirates if they did the medical in Lanka first if you want. |
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johnslat
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Dear Stephen,
I'm pretty sure I recall posters on the UAE forum writing that the exam took place upon arrival:
"Foreigners who came to the UAE to live, study or work, for a period not less than six months, will now have to undergo medical check-up for some contagious diseases like HIV AIDS, Hepatitis B and leprosy. Minister of Health, Humaid Mohammed Al Qattami, has issued a new ministerial decree making it compulsory for all expatriates coming to the UAE to live, study or work to undergo those medical tests.
In the case of Hepatitis B test, the decree states that a foreigner who enters the UAE to live, study or work shall undergo the test in two phases, the first test will be conducted during the first entry into the country, but during the renewal of residence permit only six categories of expatriates will undergo the test. They include babysitters, maidservants, private drivers, kindergarten and nursery supervisors, workers in barbering, beauty, health and fitness clubs and in all food outlets including cooks and butchers."
"4. Residence Visa
Once you have entered the UAE on your Employment visa, you are eligible for a Residence visa. In order to get your Residence visa you must pass a medical examination and obtain a work permit from the Ministry of Labour and Social Affairs. Once on Residence status, you can depart and re-enter the UAE at will throughout the duration of the visa.
Documents needed (for Principal Applicant)
Approved medical examination form
Proof of valid work permit
Passport Copy
Original Employment visa
12 Photographs
Only after you have obtained Residence status, can you start procedures for getting Residence visas for your dependants (you are considered the Principal Applicant and sponsor of your dependants). Applications for their Residence visas must be accompanied by proof of their relationship to you."
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John |
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veiledsentiments
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| johnslat wrote: |
Dear Stephen,
" . . . the obvious solution would be just to do the medical once in Saudi, . . ."
I believe that's how it's done in the UAE, isn't it? |
That's how it has been since the 90's. There have been lots of changes in the last year or two, but we have had zero questions on a UAE medical on that branch.
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eclectic
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| medical in Colombo |
that's in between the Tamil Tiger volleys into the capital. |
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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Dear Stephen,
I'm pretty sure I recall posters on the UAE forum writing that the exam took place upon arrival:
That wuz my experience...
"Foreigners who came to the UAE to live, study or work, for a period not less than six months, will now have to undergo medical check-up for some contagious diseases like HIV AIDS, Hepatitis B and leprosy. Minister of Health, Humaid Mohammed Al Qattami, has issued a new ministerial decree making it compulsory for all expatriates coming to the UAE to live, study or work to undergo those medical tests.
In the case of Hepatitis B test, the decree states that a foreigner who enters the UAE to live, study or work shall undergo the test in two phases, the first test will be conducted during the first entry into the country, but during the renewal of residence permit only six categories of expatriates will undergo the test. They include babysitters, maidservants, private drivers, kindergarten and nursery supervisors, workers in barbering, beauty, health and fitness clubs and in all food outlets including cooks and butchers."
Could you source this, John?
Regards,
John |
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johnslat
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rjbsd
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| I talked to my recruiter. He verified they repeat the tests in KSA to make sure the US medical was legit. Ridiculous. |
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rjbsd
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For what it is worth, I got the medical form signed and stamped by my doctor. Now....Who signs and stamps that bottom part. It look like there are 2 choices.
1. Stamp or Seal of the State Authority (College of Physicians) or
2. Department of Health
What on earth is that? |
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