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nateliu99
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thanks for the help JZer,
it's sounding like online work is the only way i could get one and stay in Asia |
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zipper
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nateliu99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| I don't doubt that, but i am wondering if a program like that will hurt my chances of a job in the state, the stigma exists and i don't want to spend time and money on a program like that just to discover i can't find a job with it |
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zipper
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nateliu99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:17 am Post subject: |
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just read this on asianconsultants
5. How does the tax system in Taiwan work?
The tax year in Taiwan runs from January to December. For the first six months (183 days) that you are in Taiwan, you will need to pay 20% tax on your earnings. This period of time is determined by the entry/exit stamps in your passport, and not your employment contract. You then file for tax returns before May 31st of the following year. However, if you arrive after July 31st, you will not be in this bracket. You will therefore still need to pay the 20% tax, but will not be able to file for tax return on it. If you arrive before the July 31st cutoff date and are present in Taiwan for longer than 183 days in that tax year (for example, if your arrival date was in March), then you can claim a partial refund on the taxes paid in the following year. Be careful as any time spent out of the country (visa runs, holidays, etc.) will not count toward this 183-day period.
Is this true? 20% is a lot!!! |
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JZer
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Location: Pittsburgh
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, you can get the money back as long as you start your job before July 1 of the year that you will plan to begin working in Taiwan. If you come July 2, then the government will keep all of your money. I arrived in September and had to pay 20 percent and was not refunded the money. If you arrive before July 1, you should be elligible to only pay 6 percent tax. The 14 percent difference will be returned June of the following year. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| nateliu99 wrote: |
| I don't doubt that, but i am wondering if a program like that will hurt my chances of a job in the state, the stigma exists and i don't want to spend time and money on a program like that just to discover i can't find a job with it |
If you were studying for an MBA I would be less concerned. Furthermore, you may need observation time and actually go into an American school to do observations and research. Other than working at an international school I don't see how you could get a principle certificate outside of the US. This is a professional license. |
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zipper
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| nateliu99 wrote: |
just read this on asianconsultants
5. How does the tax system in Taiwan work?
The tax year in Taiwan runs from January to December. For the first six months (183 days) that you are in Taiwan, you will need to pay 20% tax on your earnings. This period of time is determined by the entry/exit stamps in your passport, and not your employment contract. You then file for tax returns before May 31st of the following year. However, if you arrive after July 31st, you will not be in this bracket. You will therefore still need to pay the 20% tax, but will not be able to file for tax return on it. If you arrive before the July 31st cutoff date and are present in Taiwan for longer than 183 days in that tax year (for example, if your arrival date was in March), then you can claim a partial refund on the taxes paid in the following year. Be careful as any time spent out of the country (visa runs, holidays, etc.) will not count toward this 183-day period.
Is this true? 20% is a lot!!! |
Check out what has been discussed about it here:
http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=85400 |
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creztor
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Nate, I mentioned the tax rate on the first page of this thread. It is 18% now.
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Rooster_2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:17 am Post subject: |
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The tax laws changed recently.
It's now 18% for the six months of EVERY calendar year, even if you've been in Taiwan a while.
You can file a return and get some of that back, but I agree, it's pretty harsh. I guess that's what you end up paying when there's socialized medical care (whether you consider that a good thing or a bad thing). |
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Rooster_2006
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| I agree with you. I would say that a brick and mortar degree is better than an online degree, and I think that is because of the shady nature of online degrees. There is always the question about whether or not a person that obtained his degree on line has actually studied for it. For instance, I could pay for my online TESOL degree, and pay my wife to actually do it for me. |
Now zipper, I normally agree with you on most things, but...
I can tell you haven't done an online degree, because if you had, you'd know that you can't just have another person do the work for you.
My AA had its AOF (Area of Focus) in Korean, which I completed by distance WHILE LIVING IN KOREA. Do you think I would have gotten a better education in Korean had I lived in the US and gone to a brick and mortar school? I chose to complete the degree by distance while living in Korea. Personally, I think this resulted in a superior-quality AOF in Korean degree, because I was actually able to use the language in its native environment everyday.
For one of my projects for History of Asian Civilizations (a distance course), I actually took a boat to the island of Tsushima in the Tsushima Strait between Korea and Japan and did a report on Korea <-> Japan interchange including interviewing locals and assembling a photo essay with such places as the grave of Hakbong, Goryeo-mun, etc. Show me a brick-and-mortar student at a US community college who did that, and I'll eat my hat.
Not only that, but unlike a brick-and-mortar student, I had to pass the New York University Korean Language Examination with a score of 15 or above (I got a perfect 16 / 16). A brick-and-mortar student could just sit in class all day and do nothing, pass with D's and get the degree, but I had to pass a very difficult translations test to be eligible.
For my online degree, EVERY test had to be proctored by a full-time teacher, testing center, etc. I had to submit proctor requests and the school would contact the proctor and check out the proctor to make sure he/she was legit.
For example, when I took my most recent for-credit exam, I went up to Taipei's Pearson VUE Center, and not only did they check two forms of ID (ARC and passport), they also scanned the veins in my palms and had me under my own personal surveillance camera for the duration of the test! I seem to recall they also fingerprinted me.
For almost all my CLEPs, I had to go to an official US military testing center and take them, once again, under tight surveillance.
Almost all major term papers are run through various online services to guard against plagiarism, same as a brick and mortar school.
I'm not saying someone couldn't theoretically get a degree online by doing some cheating, but it's no more likely to happen than with a brick and mortar school. In brick and mortar schools, students often plagiarize, cheat on tests, etc. too. In fact, it's easier to cheat on tests at a brick-and-mortar school since you can always look over the shoulder of the other person taking the test. This is impossible with an online degree program since you are taking the test alone, and therefore have no one from which to cheat.
Some online degrees like Belford University are obviously scams and require no proctoring. However, Taiwan would NEVER acknowledge that degree because everyone knows it's a diploma mill in the UAE.
Any ACCREDITED online degree program requires either proctored exams, extensive papers which are fed through several anti-plagiarism services, or both.
Essentially, an online degree is still a brick-and-mortar degree in the sense that the tests are still taken in a brick-and-mortar school.
Now, one could point to the tiny minority of online schools that have no tests and only require papers. But then I'd point to the brick-and-mortar liberal arts colleges that have no grades, no tests, and let the students do whatever they want.
And that's what I have to say about distance degrees. |
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zipper
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| Now zipper, I normally agree with you on most things, but... |
That�s okay Rooster. I still love ya� 
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JZer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Not only that, but unlike a brick-and-mortar student, I had to pass the New York University Korean Language Examination with a score of 15 or above (I got a perfect 16 / 16). A brick-and-mortar student could just sit in class all day and do nothing, pass with D's and get the degree, but I had to pass a very difficult translations test to be eligible. |
You usually have to get a B in a class unless it is an elective to count towards graduation. |
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