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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Cheap wine:
5 lbs of sugar or other sweet material (local wild berries?)
water (enough to bring the contents up to 5 gallons)
something for flavor (roses, dandelions, rum flavor from the bakery supply section of the grocery, local berries (juniper if you like
GIN), etc.)
1 tablespoon of yeast or sourdough starter (wine yeast gives the best result but any yeast will work).
Toss the ingredients into a 5 gallon bucket.
mix well.
Cover loosely (flies stay out and CO2 can escape) and let stand for a week.
Siphon off into plastic (5 gallon water bottle) carboy (leave the residue behind) and put an airlock on it.
Let stand for a week, siphon into a clean carboy (5 gallon water bottle).
repeat 3- 4 times till it is clear and not cloudy.
= Homemade wine (11-14% alcohol by volume (22-28 proof).
Drink.
Sugar may be expensive up there but there are other local options for sweetening (yeast needs some form of sugars to turn into alcohol).
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mimi_intheworld
Joined: 23 May 2010
Posts: 167
Location: UAE
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
Cheap wine:
5 lbs of sugar or other sweet material (local wild berries?)
water (enough to bring the contents up to 5 gallons)
something for flavor (roses, dandelions, rum flavor from the bakery supply section of the grocery, local berries (juniper if you like
GIN), etc.)
1 tablespoon of yeast or sourdough starter (wine yeast gives the best result but any yeast will work).
Toss the ingredients into a 5 gallon bucket.
mix well.
Cover loosely (flies stay out and CO2 can escape) and let stand for a week.
Siphon off into plastic (5 gallon water bottle) carboy (leave the residue behind) and put an airlock on it.
Let stand for a week, siphon into a clean carboy (5 gallon water bottle).
repeat 3- 4 times till it is clear and not cloudy.
= Homemade wine (11-14% alcohol by volume (22-28 proof).
Drink.
Sugar may be expensive up there but there are other local options for sweetening (yeast needs some form of sugars to turn into alcohol).
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^^^
Best, most practical, useful-est post ever. Only one question: is it the siphoning that should be repeated 3-4 times? Or the letting stand for a week?? |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Dear Fladude,
I don't quite understand the situation with the booze laws where you are. Aren't alcohol laws governed by the federal government in the US?
I mean, I know you get 'dry counties' in some states of the US, but it's only illegal to BUY alcohol in dry counties, I think. If you purchased it over the county line then brought it into the county you would be fine, right? What I'm trying to say is that alcohol isn't illegal in Alaska as a whole, so surely buying it in say, Anchorage, then consuming it privately in your home, in the innuit village, wouldn't lead to prosecution?
'Northern Alaska' doesn't have a clear line of demarcation, does it? If you were carrying alcohol, and driving north, how would you know when you were starting to break the law? Are there signs up? |
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tttompatz
Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
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| mimi_intheworld wrote: |
^^^
Best, most practical, useful-est post ever. Only one question: is it the siphoning that should be repeated 3-4 times? Or the letting stand for a week?? |
Let stand for a week and then siphon.
Repeat the process (standing and siphon away from the dregs every week until it is clear to avoid a bad, yeasty taste).
| bulgogiboy wrote: |
'Northern Alaska' doesn't have a clear line of demarcation, does it? If you were carrying alcohol, and driving north, how would you know when you were starting to break the law? Are there signs up? |
Unless you have a magic carpet you won't be driving across any lines.
There is a serious lack of roads up there. Most travel (between locations/towns/etc) is either fly, float or walk.
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fladude
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
Posts: 432
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| Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| bulgogiboy wrote: |
Dear Fladude,
I don't quite understand the situation with the booze laws where you are. Aren't alcohol laws governed by the federal government in the US? |
The Federal Government controls the manufacture of alcohol on a basic level, meaning that it sets basic standards which must be met. Each state may then exceed those standards (the states just can't create guidelines which are "less restrictive" than the Feds. Each state could make alcohol illegal if it wanted to.
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I mean, I know you get 'dry counties' in some states of the US, but it's only illegal to BUY alcohol in dry counties, I think. If you purchased it over the county line then brought it into the county you would be fine, right?
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That's true in most of the lower 48, maybe all of it, however in parts of Alaska it is illegal to POSSESS alcohol. Meaning that if you are caught with it you will go to jail. At a minimum you will end up with a criminal record and a fine. And if you are a teacher then you will be fired and deported off the Indian land (doesn't sound much different from Saudi Arabia does it???). If you have 14 bottles then it's a felony.
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| Northern Alaska' doesn't have a clear line of demarcation, does it? If you were carrying alcohol, and driving north, how would you know when you were starting to break the law? Are there signs up? |
Well first of all Northern Alaska doesn't really have roads. You can't drive to where I live. You have to take a plane. Like TTTom said its "fly, float or walk," although I am so far north that "walk" isn't really an option unless you can walk a couple hundred miles across the tundra. Float is only available in the summer for a few months (and no one really floats here.... there is a cargo barge but that's for cargo). In the winter time and spring time we are surrounded by the ice pack so no floating then....
Some people, mainly smugglers, will drive a snowmachine up across the tundra in the winter time. This involves pulling a large sled behind your snowmachine with extra fuel on it. Most of the people who make this difficult trip are smuggling booze and/or drugs.
In general alcohol is illegal in many of the rural parts of Alaska where the population is mainly native American. In terms of being aware of the law, you had better make sure you find out. Ignorance of the law is not a defense in America..... |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 255
Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| smithrn1983 wrote: |
| Also get a reputable tefl certificate. |
I'm hearing that that ain't such a big deal in most places. What say ye? |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 255
Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| fladude wrote: |
| bulgogiboy wrote: |
Dear Fladude,
I don't quite understand the situation with the booze laws where you are. Aren't alcohol laws governed by the federal government in the US? |
The Federal Government controls the manufacture of alcohol on a basic level, meaning that it sets basic standards which must be met. Each state may then exceed those standards (the states just can't create guidelines which are "less restrictive" than the Feds. Each state could make alcohol illegal if it wanted to. |
Actually, it's a local option (dry/damp/wet) and not controlled by the state at all. Just quasi-enforced by troopers.
| fladude wrote: |
| ...if you are a teacher then you will be fired... |
There's the crux right there.
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| Some people, mainly smugglers, will drive a snowmachine up across the tundra in the winter time. This involves pulling a large sled behind your snowmachine with extra fuel on it. Most of the people who make this difficult trip are smuggling booze and/or drugs. |
Yeah, we get that a lot down here, too. The bootleggers will be out in full force for New Year's.
You on the Slope, dude? |
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steki47
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 1029
Location: BFE Inaka
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| I never understood why they call it teetotalers. Like you only totally drink tea? Shouldn't it be tea and not tee? |
I believe it is a reference to golf and who keeps score. The sober person would be resonsible for counting the strokes and totalling the tees. |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
Posts: 9041
Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| steki47 wrote: |
| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| I never understood why they call it teetotalers. Like you only totally drink tea? Shouldn't it be tea and not tee? |
I believe it is a reference to golf and who keeps score. The sober person would be resonsible for counting the strokes and totalling the tees. |
Huh. Who'd have thunk? INteresting |
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Kiwi303
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
Posts: 165
Location: Chong Qing Jiao Tong Da Xue, Xue Fu Da Dao, Nan An Qu, Chong Qing Shi, P. R China
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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But Golf is a Scots invention... and Whiskey is a Scots invention... plus there's the 19th hole.
Teetotal and Golf doesn't seem a very logical match-up  |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| Kiwi303 wrote: |
But Golf is a Scots invention... and Whiskey is a Scots invention... plus there's the 19th hole.
Teetotal and Golf doesn't seem a very logical match-up |
Don't Scots spell it whisky? (No pedantry here - serious question about the distinction.) |
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fladude
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| Steinmann wrote: |
Actually, it's a local option (dry/damp/wet) and not controlled by the state at all. Just quasi-enforced by troopers. |
"The state legislature has enacted laws that provide a method for a community to control and impose certain limits on the availability of alcohol in a community. The "local option" laws found in Title 4 of the Alaska Statutes and Title 13 of the Alaska Administrative Code provide the method for either a municipality or an established village to impose these limits and requires community involvement through the petition and "local option" election process.
Within a municipality the local option statute, AS 04.11.491, provides five options that residents may vote on and within an established village there are four options. The reason for the difference is that a municipality may ban sale, except by premises operated by the municipality. Following is a synopsis of the options:
* A ban on sale (AS 04.11.491(a)(1) within a municipality and (b)(1) within an established village);
* A ban on sale, except by a type of licensee listed on the ballot and authorized in statute (AS 04.11.491(a)(2) within a municipality and (b)(2) within an established village),
* A ban on sale, except by premises operated by a municipality (AS 04.11.491(a)(3));
* A ban on sale and importation (AS 04.11.491(a)(4) within a municipality and AS 04.11.491(b)(3) within an established village); and
* A ban on sale, importation, and possession (AS 04.11.491(a)(5) within a municipality and AS 04.11.491(b)(4) within an established village)."
http://www.commerce.state.ak.us/dca/LOGON/elect/elect-opt.htm
So it is a State law... like I said. Its just that the State allows communities to adopt their own policy. And if you violate the local ordnance you can be charged with violating the State laws as well. |
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Trifaro
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:07 am Post subject: |
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| Supposedly, there are 18 holes in golf because that is how long it took for the original players to drink a bottle of whiskey. |
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Big Poppa Pump
Joined: 28 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Trifaro wrote: |
| Supposedly, there are 18 holes in golf because that is how long it took for the original players to drink a bottle of whiskey. |
Cause someone always passes out after weaving their way to the 18th hole? |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 255
Location: In the frozen north
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| Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| fladude wrote: |
| Steinmann wrote: |
Actually, it's a local option (dry/damp/wet) and not controlled by the state at all. Just quasi-enforced by troopers. |
"The state legislature has enacted laws that provide a method for a community to control and impose certain limits on the availability of alcohol in a community. The "local option" laws found in Title 4 of the Alaska Statutes and Title 13 of the Alaska Administrative Code provide the method for either a municipality or an established village to impose these limits and requires community involvement through the petition and "local option" election process.
Within a municipality the local option statute, AS 04.11.491, provides five options that residents may vote on and within an established village there are four options. The reason for the difference is that a municipality may ban sale, except by premises operated by the municipality. Following is a synopsis of the options:
* A ban on sale (AS 04.11.491(a)(1) within a municipality and (b)(1) within an established village);
* A ban on sale, except by a type of licensee listed on the ballot and authorized in statute (AS 04.11.491(a)(2) within a municipality and (b)(2) within an established village),
* A ban on sale, except by premises operated by a municipality (AS 04.11.491(a)(3));
* A ban on sale and importation (AS 04.11.491(a)(4) within a municipality and AS 04.11.491(b)(3) within an established village); and
* A ban on sale, importation, and possession (AS 04.11.491(a)(5) within a municipality and AS 04.11.491(b)(4) within an established village)."
http://www.commerce.state.ak.us/dca/LOGON/elect/elect-opt.htm
So it is a State law... like I said. Its just that the State allows communities to adopt their own policy. And if you violate the local ordnance you can be charged with violating the State laws as well. |
Indeed. I was only suggesting that whether a particular village is dry or not is controlled locally.
Fine research, by the way. |
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