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spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

According to Oxford's online dictionary, it means 'with irony and insincerity.' That's what I thought it meant - and where I thought Zero was coming from.

Once again, I really don't think anyone was actually suggesting or planning to doctor a CV or lie about his/her qualifications.

Either would obviously be very wrong. And stupid - once again, it's extremely easy to verify these things. It would be utterly impractical to suggest trying it.

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

the problem with forums is that it can be VERY hard to tell whether someone is being serious or saracastic. I guess we'd have to ask Zero what he meant.

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Or we could just drop the issue. You're obviously not going to try to fake your credentials anyway.

redsnapper · Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 60

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

You're underestimating the OP, whom most of us know to be a career teacher who presumably has a fair degree of knowledge about the legalities of landing a job. She's taught in at least three different countries already to my knowledge.

The 'context,' in this case, is not the same as if the OP were a newbie.

what to do about the scenario if these types of degrees are not accepted

Further, I do not think there was ever any inquiry on anyone's part as to how to get 'in' in the case that online degrees are not accepted. If you can find such a question in the thread, please highlight it. Then, the 'context' argument will be logical and not an over-reaction.

In that case, I guess we can 'fire' Zero from the forum for conspiracy to commit fraud Shocked

johnslat · Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject:

Dear spiral78,

"In that case, I guess we can 'fire' Zero from the forum for conspiracy to commit fraud."

Not to mention the fact that he/she joined Dave's online (and we all know how dubious those online registrations can be.)
Very Happy

Regards,
John

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

Thanks everyone for all your answers. I guess I'll just say it's online degree in my email or cover letter.

helenl · Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1202

Sorry, but why? If you're being honest about dates and places, why is it necessary for you to specify anywhere the degree is online? I have a distance degree, I disclose all the dates etc. but I never even thought about telling the employer that it was done by distance.

If you're afraid of being hired and then being dismissed for not being upfront, OK - but personally, I consider it being upfront by giving the information specified - if the employer asked for the info fine, give it to them. I would hope that they're savvy enough to see from your info the degree was done by distance and to choose to ask for more details.

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

I agree with helen1. Give them dates, institution and degree awarded. If they ask about it, answer honestly. If they don't ask, it means that it doesn't matter.

VS

naturegirl321 · Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home

veiledsentiments · Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA

Cleopatra · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:42 pm Post subject:

This is what KSU have to say about online degrees (from the TESOL Arabia site):

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

I'm not disagreeing, but on my distance MA from U Birmingham, England, there were two Saudi teachers who were getting the degree (subsidised by their government) in order to earn pay raises as teachers at their Saudi university. I'm still in touch with them.

It's just an anecdote, I realise, and nothing to bank on.

Perhaps the distinction was that this was technically a blended degree, with an on-campus component required.

Cleopatra · Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: