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Glenski
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| HLJHLJ wrote: |
Anything that involves public speaking or presentation skills.
Any managerial position that has a staff training, testing or monitoring aspect to it. (Which is pretty much all of them).
Even traditionally manual jobs, such as your landscape gardener, often have a training element in them. Someone has to teach the apprentice the ropes.
All of the above use skills that any decent teacher will have. |
But IMO that's not enough for the above. To rely just on teaching skills to get such jobs above (and the first one isn't even defined) would be a real stretch IMO.
And, I don't know where you have worked in ESL/EFL, but "any decent teacher" is not what a lot of ESL/EFL teachers are called. |
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overhere
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I have seen social work mentioned in this thread...I am a social work supervisor in the U.S. now and am fortunate to be employed. In 2008, the government agency I worked for employed 1600 people today we have just over 700 on the payroll. I work for a large social service agency many of the folks laid off had advanced degrees in social work (MSW, LISW) ...so please choose carefully if you go that route...I do undertsand there are opportunities for social workers in the UK...infact, until recently, U.S. Social Workers were recruited by headhunters there...but that has apeared to dried up as well....the austerity measures being taken by governments around the world has a direct and indirect effect on teaching, social work and other helping professions...the only fields that seems to offer opportunities now is health care, but that market will most likely be flooded in a couple of years as well (many folks returning to college to pursure healthcare careers.).
I will be retiring in a couple of years and pursuing a TELF career to supplement my retirement income...it won't be alot but I am single with no children so hopefully it will work out. |
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cks
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| Wow! The future looks bleak! I know there are plenty of tables to wait, phones to answer, or administrators to assist if I ever head home. It seems TEFL abroad forever- which might not be so bad. |
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teacheratlarge
Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| But sometimes you want a break from teaching. A friend of mine was also doing magic tricks at a restaurant he worked at. Finding a hobby and turning it into to something you can share for money is always a nice change from teaching. |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, sometimes a break between teaching is good. I just did something different for the summer and then when the school year started up I went back to teaching. I worked at a shop and was able to sell some things with my mediocre language skills. It was a nice way to get involved in my new community and practice using the language. A good diversion. |
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teacheratlarge
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| That sounds like fun, working ina shop. Here it would be difficult, as the paranoia is high for potential misunderstandings. |
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contented
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| There were a couple of misunderstandings, but nothing serious. I learned some new words, got to work like a local and forgot about being a teacher until the fall semester began. |
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steki47
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| cks wrote: |
| It seems TEFL abroad forever- which might not be so bad. |
There are worse fates...
Seriously, I have had worse jobs in my own country and I think EFL overseas is not a bad way to live life. |
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Nkengaola
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| This is one of my fears. I am considering leaving a pretty good job at a pretty good company in the US, to TEFL overseas. Luckily, I work as an administrative assistant, have over 10 years experience, and plan to keep up with my friends and associates in the states, as well as keep up my certifications, so I can re-enter the workforce (if I want to) after my TEFL experience. I don't know if it's realistic, but since I'm 40, I may not get another chance to teach overseas. |
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contented
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Nkengaola wrote: |
| This is one of my fears. I am considering leaving a pretty good job at a pretty good company in the US, to TEFL overseas. |
Why do you want to give that up to teach abroad? 20 something years later you can retire abroad. It's none of my business, I know, but I'm just wondering. |
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Nkengaola
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Why do you want to give that up to teach abroad? 20 something years later you can retire abroad. It's none of my business, I know, but I'm just wondering. |
Several reasons. Considering my family health history, I have a decent chance of living until age 65, but longer is VERY uncertain. My maternal grandmother, every one of my maternal aunts, and my father, all died before 65. Yes, I am doing what I can to change that, but with that history, I'd rather do what I have wanted to do for years, now, than wait for a maybe.
Another is, I haven't saved enough to retire on. I will most likely be working for the rest of my life. I'm fine with that, and I have some ideas of things I can do in the future to earn money, but realistically speaking, retiring overseas without working is not a realistic option for me, now or in the future. And, if I'm going to have to work to "retire" overseas, why wait??? I can do that now while I'm healthy! |
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Zero
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| It will be like early semi-retirement overseas for you. Go for it! |
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Zero
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| Why do you want to give that up to teach abroad? 20 something years later you can retire abroad. It's none of my business, I know, but I'm just wondering. |
Forty is not as old as you make it sound. Those 20+ years to retirement are a pretty long time to sit at a desk wishing you were somewhere else. |
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Nkengaola
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Zero wrote: |
| It will be like early semi-retirement overseas for you. Go for it! |
That's what I figure! |
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teacheratlarge
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| Forty is not as old as you make it sound. Those 20+ years to retirement are a pretty long time to sit at a desk wishing you were somewhere else. |
But when you're married and 50+, suddenly that decision gets a little more complicated (especially when your wife has standards of comfort that she has grown used to). I keep thinking I'd like to do the opposite, go back to a desk job or other kind of work in my home country not involving teaching. |
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