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Sadebugo
Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 524
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey, John!
Glad to see you're back fighting the good fight. You know, I've been reading some of the more recent comments and just shaking my head. One guy actually asked if I had viewed the jobs in SE Asia, the South Pacific, etc. Great vacation spots but probably the worst places to teach EFL if you're concerned about making a living salary. I struggled in Thailand for a year trying to make 40,000 baht last the month and that was considered a reasonable salary at the time. No thank you!
But, I finally figured it out. These people are so jealous of my situation, they're making these ridiculous statements to cause my blood pressure to go orbital. They're hoping that if I have an aneurysm, they can take my spot. Relax, guys! All you have to do is apply. There are many positions available.
And what's with this bias against Texas? Since a lot of Texas' population especially South Texas is Hispanic in origin, I can only assume that the criticisms arise from some kind of anti-immigration feelings. If so, I have to take umbrage with that since my current girlfriend just happens to be hispanic. Shame on all of you!! |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 899 Location: Gdansk, Poland
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:18 am Post subject: The Texas thing |
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| is more likely meant as a joke or a foreigner's generalized, stereotypical view of American society and politics. Take it with a grain of salt Sade. |
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squindia

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 38 Location: Bangalore, India
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Glad you like your job Sadebugo.
From my perspective, the gripe with Texas has more to do with the current president and his incompetence/ignorance than it does with immigration. I have also met many a co-cky Texan that sees Texas as THE best place on earth and superior to any other place in the states...can be a bit tired.
but to each their own! places to live and jobs can all be very subjective eh? |
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Sadebugo
Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 524
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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Glad you like your job Sadebugo.
From my perspective, the gripe with Texas has more to do with the current president and his incompetence/ignorance than it does with immigration. I have also met many a co-cky Texan that sees Texas as THE best place on earth and superior to any other place in the states...can be a bit tired.
but to each their own! places to live and jobs can all be very subjective eh? |
Thanks for the clarification. BTW, I'm originally from Kentucky and have only been living in Texas since I took this job. But I have to say, I have found Texans to be some of the most hospitable people I've ever met in my life. I know you were just speculating on what the other poster really meant, but I think I'd like to hear it from the horse's mouth.
So, what do you say previous posters? Could you please be more specific about what group of race, religion, culture, political affiliation, etc. you meant to generalize about? If you tell me, then I can better figure out how to counter your argument.
Thanks! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Left or right? |
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Texas reminds me of California, in that both states seem to have the tendency to swing either to the left or right when electing governors.
In California:Jerry Brown and Ronald Reagan
In Texas: Ann Richards and Dubya
Generalizations are always risky (including that one, I guess), but making political ones about either of those two states would seem to be especially so. |
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Ernie Cuba
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 24 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
| I finally figured it out. These people are so jealous of my situation, they're making these ridiculous statements to cause my blood pressure to go orbital. They're hoping that if I have an aneurysm, they can take my spot. |
Yes, Sade, we're all lining up behind you. (Irony.. Not available in Texas) |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sadebugo I wouldn't worry too much about countering those kinds of arguements. There are good and bad points to living in any country, and both as well for different areas within each country. You get the same rivalry between regions in Japan, as well as the metro versus countryside spats. It all depends on what kinds of things you like to do and how convenient you want to be to certain facilities.
As to the income issue, yes, as we get older and more security minded (well, at least most of us), that is a very big issue. I remember a owner of a school in Central north Thailand offering me a teaching and touring job. But I didn't think I could make very much money, and told him so. He suggested I teach Japanese businessmen in Bangkok.
Of course, I'm teaching plenty of Japanese in Japan, and the pollution in Tokyo is not quite as bad as Bangkok. Overall I think I came out a winner. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, if I were to move back to the US of A, I would almost certainly move to Texas. It's not a bad place. But if that were to happen, I'd probably teach in a public school, not for the department of defense.  |
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Ernie Cuba
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 24 Location: Amsterdam
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo wrote: |
So, what do you say previous posters? Could you please be more specific about what group of race, religion, culture, political affiliation, etc. you meant to generalize about? If you tell me, then I can better figure out how to counter your argument. |
No problem! But I'd like to be less specific, hence: generalisation. I generally find the United States to be a scary place. Its lack of democracy and civil rights (see New Hampshire/Patriot Act) makes me anxious. The fact that the dark, murderous history of the CIA fills many with national pride freaks me out a little.
But I'll get a little more specific. I wouldn't like to live in a state where women carry handguns in their handbags and the state murders a disproportionate amount of ethnic minorities.
I wouldn't like to live in a state where the majority off the people I meet believe the war in Iraq was just (I have met many Texans).
Of course, people are different and not all Texans are the same but I am not afraid to rise to your challenge to generalise. Perhaps ten years ago I would have told you; "we're all the same, maaan", but I've travelled too much to keep that view. Different cultures and socities produce different mind-sets. The Dutch are generally liberal, Loatians friendly and North Koreans xenophobic; by way of their fear-mongering media.
I asked you if you'd looked on the other sections of the furom, such as S.E. Asia, Caribbean and S. Pacific. You said you tried Thailand and did not make enough money to live. I'm sorry to hear you failed and I hope you don't give up. I myself, have worked in Thailand (although not in EFL) and have had great success. As was said before, we don't all have the same views and experiences, don't take it to heart.
I worked in thhe Cayman Islands about seven years ago, I found it boring and pretentious and left for better. A lot of people thought I was crazy. A few years later I found work in Cambodia, I loved it, a lot of people thought I was crazy. I wouldn't declare either the best for thousands of people I've never met online.
Personally, if I told my friends I was going to Texas they would spray their beverage in my face. The fact is, due to the behaviour of your country over the last few decades less people are dreaming of living there and a few are having nightmares.
I genuinely hope you enjoy your new directorship and I wish you all the luck in future recruitment.
Ernie. |
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Sadebugo
Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 524
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Wow! First, Ernie Cuba let me say that you are certainly entitled to your opinion and I don't dare deny that. But, I think it's clear now that your beef isn't so much with an EFL job for the DOD but with America (in general). If you've traveled as much as you say you have, I have to ask you what country holds up to your personal ideals more so than America? My experience in traveling has been that perception and reality of a country differ somewhat. I guess you could nominate some 'niche' countries like Canada, Switzerland, etc. that have had the luxury of espousing purer beliefs while resting under the security blanket of other Western powers since WWII. However, that would be like comparing apples to oranges.
Anyway, I guess if you dislike my country so much, there's no way we can ever reach a middle ground. Wait a second! How about Cuba?? Now there's a utopian paradise!!
Cheers! |
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