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johnslat · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:14 am Post subject:

Dear Deicide,

" . . . whilst we may opt not to, we are in effect denying what we are meant to do."

Meant to by whom? Mother Nature? Evolution? ANd just why should such "meant to's" mean anything to me?
Regards,
John

007 · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:41 am Post subject:

littleoldlady · Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven

Deicide,

I can fully empathise with "circumstantial depression." You may be experiencing a mid-life crisis Crying or Very sad

May I humbly suggest some time with an experience life coach ( I know a very good one in Sheffield who coaches on the phone) to help you untangle that very tight piece of string around you neck.

Instead of doing another MA as you suggested, what about investing in professional training - coaching, mentoring, NLP, counselling etc - make use of your communication skills and the fact that "you have been THERE"

Some of the best psychotherapists have had crises of their own.

Just a thought - please don't shoot me down. I'm too sensitive. Ain't that true NCTBA? Laughing

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:27 am Post subject:

Yes. Listen to the lady. She knows of what she speaks. This is not a therapy board, but in a sense it is. One must build their self-esteem, if one lacks such.

Life is life and one must learn to take the good with the bad. But one must also sense where the bad ends and the good begins.

Remember John's words about life after 40. I wouldn't know as I'm only 23... Laughing

...,but, there is light at the end of the tunnel. One must only continue to make the journey understanding that the light will, eventually, come within sight...

IMHO...

NCTBA

P.s.- When my wife and I were recently faced with lemons in our lives...within seconds we were churning out recipes of lemonade. Luckily for us, I was completely in the right, so lemonade recipe-making was put on the back burner. Those who view this and know of me will understand EXACTLY what I am speaking about.

Deicide · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:35 am Post subject:

Nabby Adams · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 215

But evolution has no agency. There is no architect behind the scenes. To say we are here to reproduce, well you might as well say we are here to eat and drink. I think we are as much here to procreate as a headless chicken is here to run around. Children are a result of actions that we carry out due to our nature, but I wouldn't say that it is "why" we are here.

Evolution suggests a mechanical universe that is causual. A rock isn't here to "lie on the ground" it just is the result of past causes; and so are we.

So just enjoy yourself is what I say. And go to the ME if you think it will bring you more happiness.

Deicide · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:17 pm Post subject:

Nabby Adams · Joined: 08 Feb 2008 Posts: 215

Er, you were the one who stated that is why we are here!

Mind you, having an interest in these things doesn't help a teacher feel he is spending is time usefully teaching the past perfect. Smile

Deicide · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject:

johnslat · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject:

Dear Deicide,

If you believe you live in a meaningless universe, you either impose your own meaning on your life or you accept the meaninglessness, push it to the back of your mind, and go on about your business.

Or you opt out - which would, of course, be meaningless, too.

Now what I'm about to quote is what some, maybe many, would undoubtedly consider schmaltzy; nevertheless, I like it:

"OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul."

There are times when we all need to "Man up" (or, to be PC "Woman up.")

"Then they brought a faggot, kindled with fire, and laid it down at Ridley's feet. To whom Latimer spoke in this manner: 'Be of good comfort, Master Ridley, and play the man; we shall this day light such a candle by God's grace in England, as I trust shall never be put out."

Regards,
John

littleoldlady · Joined: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 286 Location: knitting heaven

John
You are wonderful. You blow my mind Laughing

I wonder what's happened to VS. Has she disappeared into another universe searching for meaning? Laughing

My last two pennies worth on this subject close to my heart:-

For me life has meaning when I give to and do for others. Having children taught me courage and selflessness and stopped me being so introspective. . I would have worked for VSO had I not had them, thereby giving other children in the world whatever I could. You don't have to believe in God to do that.

Teaching has got to be one of the most worthwhile jobs on earth. Deicide, you are lucky to have the chance to shape young minds. Try and think of it that way.
Now the olddear will shut up. Embarassed

Deicide · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject:

Never Ceased To Be Amazed · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject:

I had the same question about VS and have received a reply...she's ♫ on the road again...♫ I'm sure she'll be chiming in again soon...

NCTBA

johnslat · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject:

Dear NCTBA,
She just chimed in on the Oman forum. Hmm, she must be heading south for the winter.
Hey, VS - if you're passing through Santa Fe, drop by. We're at a new address (our fourth in five years, but, it's to be hoped, our last.)
Let me know if I should PM you.
Regards,
John