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| Deicide wrote: |
| I didn't ever say anything about Muslims; I merely said that the contents of the Koran are not scientifically verifiable as being true. That has nothing to do with Muslims. |
Well, the Quran is not primarily a scientific book, it is a guidance book, but this does not necessarily mean that it does not include scientifically verifiable facts.
In a number of Quranic verses, there are some indications and references to a variety of natural phenomena, which relate to order, balance, and system that characterize the universe, and other references to the relationship among the various sectors of nature, and other world's physical phenomena.
As an example for the relationship between the Quran and Science, I suggest you read the book by Dr. Maurice Bucaille, �The Bible, The Quran and Science�, in one of his chapter, Bucaille explained the basic process of the formation of the universe and the resulting composition of the worlds.
�The Qur'an presents in two verses a brief synthesis of the phenomena that constituted the basic process of the formation of the Universe.
---sura 21, verse 30:
"Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together, then We clove them asunder and We got every living thing out of the water. Will they not then believe?"
---sura 41, verse 11:
� God orders the Prophet to speak after inviting him to reflect on the subject of the earth's creation:
"Moreover (God) turned to the Heaven when it was smoke and said to it and to the earth..."
There then follow the orders to submit.
The important things to remember at present are the following:
a) The statement of the existence of a gaseous mass with fine particles, for this is how the word 'smoke' (dukhan in Arabic) is to be interpreted. Smoke is generally made up of a gaseous substratum, plus, in more or less stable suspension, fine particles that may belong to solid and even liquid states of matter at high or low temperature;
b) The reference to a separation process (fatq) of an primary single mass whose elements were initially fused together (ratq). It must be noted that in Arabic 'fatq' is the action of breaking, diffusing, separating, and that 'ratq' is the action of fusing or binding together elements to make a homogenous whole.
This concept of the separation of a whole into several parts is noted in other passages of the Book with reference to multiple worlds. The first verse of the first sura in the Qur'an proclaims, after the opening invocation, the following: "In the name of God, the Beneficent, the Merciful", "Praise be to God, Lord of the Worlds."
The terms 'worlds' reappears dozens of times in the Qur'an. The Heavens are referred to as multiple as well, not only on account of their plural form, but also because of their symbolic numerical quantity: 7.
This number is used 24 times throughout the Qur'an for various numerical quantities. It often
carries the meaning of 'many' although we do not know exactly why this meaning of the figure was used.
The Greeks and Romans also seem to have used the number 7 to mean an undefined idea of plurality. In the Qur'an, the number 7 refers to the Heavens themselves (samawat). It alone is understood to mean 'Heavens'. The 7 roads of the Heavens are mentioned once:
--sura 2, verse 29:
"(God) is the One Who created for you all that is on the earth. Moreover He turned to the heaven and fashioned seven heavens with harmony
http://www.islam101.com/science/universe.html
Solar System and Quran:
�The information the Qur'an provides on this subject mainly deals with the solar system. References are however made to phenomena that go beyond the solar system itself: they have been discovered in recent times. There are two very important verses on the orbits of the Sun and Moon:
--sura 21, verse 33:
"(God is) the One Who created the night,and day, the sun and the moon. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion."
--sura 36, verse 40:
"The sun must not catch up the moon, nor does the night outstrip the day. Each one is travelling in an orbit with its own motion."
"Here an essential fact is clearly stated: the existence of the Sun's and Moon's orbits, plus a reference is made to the traveling of these bodies in space with their own motion. A negative fact also emerges from a reading of these verses: it is shown that the Sun moves in an orbit, but no indication is given as to what this orbit might be in relation to the Earth. At the time of the Qur'anic Revelation, it was thought that the Sun moved while the Earth stood still. This was the system of geocentrism that had held away since the time of Ptolemy, Second century B.C., and was to continue to do so until Copernicus in the Sixteenth century A.D. Although people supported this concept at the time of Muhammad, it does not appear anywhere in the Qur'an, either here or elsewhere."
http://www.islam101.com/science/Celest.html
Quran and Embryology:
"Decades later a noted embryologist Keith L. Moore and expert in his field, upon being presented with the statements made in the Qur�an regarding the stages of the formation of the embryo from the mixing of the male and female gametes up to the embryo�s full development remarked "It has been a pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Qur�an about Human Development. It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from God or Allaah because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later." Professor Moore presented his findings to scientists at several conferences. Several Canadian periodicals published many of Moore�s statements and in addition he presented three television programmes in which he highlighted the compatibility of modern science with what has been revealed in the Qur�an 1400 years ago. Consequently, he was asked: "Does this mean that you believe that the Qur�an is the word of God?" to which he replied "I find no difficulty in accepting this."
"Also the statement of E. Marshal Johnson (Professor and Chairman, Dept. of Anatomy, Daniel Bough Institute, Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, USA) when he became aware of such statements in the Qur�an and investigated them: "The Qur�an describes not only the development of external form but emphasizes also the internal stages - the stages inside the embryo of its creation and development, emphasizing major events recognized by contemporary science... If I was to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I do today and describing things, I could not describe the things that were described... I see no evidence to refute the concept that this individual Muhammad had to be developing this information from some place... so I see nothing in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved..."
[Do they not carefully analyse the Quran. If it had been from other than Allaah then surely they would have found many discrepancies therein ][Quran- Surah 4:82]
You can read more about the Quran and Science in the following link:
http://www.islam101.com/science/quran_sc_tv.html |
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