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sharter



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:57 am    Post subject: it's simple Reply with quote

It's simple. Just write a best-seller or claim asylum in the UK; they'll give you everything then.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nkengaola wrote:
Several reasons. Considering my family health history, I have a decent chance of living until age 65, but longer is VERY uncertain. My maternal grandmother, every one of my maternal aunts, and my father, all died before 65. Yes, I am doing what I can to change that, but with that history, I'd rather do what I have wanted to do for years, now, than wait for a maybe.

Another is, I haven't saved enough to retire on. I will most likely be working for the rest of my life. I'm fine with that, and I have some ideas of things I can do in the future to earn money, but realistically speaking, retiring overseas without working is not a realistic option for me, now or in the future. And, if I'm going to have to work to "retire" overseas, why wait??? I can do that now while I'm healthy!


Okay, I see. Then go for it! If you'll have to work anyway then you might as well start now finding a good job teaching overseas before you turn 50. After 50 it can be hard to find some positions (especially in some Asian countries). All the best to you!
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Zero



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But when you're married and 50+, suddenly that decision gets a little more complicated (especially when your wife has standards of comfort that she has grown used to). I keep thinking I'd like to do the opposite, go back to a desk job or other kind of work in my home country not involving teaching.

Definitely as we age and accrue more responsibilities, as well as assets, it's harder to uproot.
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TwinCentre



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just like to jump in here on this thread if I may....(a bit late)..

A while ago, I was curious to find out which non-teaching career is the most popular to retrain into for ex-TEFL teachers. Using my very haphazzard, non-scientific research methods (google), I think I found it!

The answer?

Hypnotherapist

If you look at retraining testimonials of hypnotherapists online, you often find that they are former TEFLers.....funny...
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Zero



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course. EFLers and hypnotherapists both do something useless, for very little money, while their audience zones completely out.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Of course. EFLers and hypnotherapists both do something useless, for very little money, while their audience zones completely out.


Classic! And one of the reasons I got out. Now I edit stuff that nobody reads!
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teacheratlarge



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a minute, my students are great at staying awake (but maybe zoned out, let me check their cellphones next time..)!!! I'm the one who has problems staying awake...., I'm thinking accupuncure would help.

Seriously as to retraining, something doing training would be easier to transition into, it would have many similar features to teaching (different label, different arena, and often higher pay).
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TwinCentre wrote:

If you look at retraining testimonials of hypnotherapists online, you often find that they are former TEFLers.....funny...


Actually, I know someone who did it the other way around. She was (is still, but not practicing at the moment) a hynotherapist who is now teaching English abroad.
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Madame J



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With regards to the OP, I'm going through exactly the same situation. I also feel as though if I could just work out what else I'd like to do, I'd happily spend the time retraining. As it is, a career in the charity sector seems most appealing, and so I'm looking into the possibility of becoming a volunteer co-ordinator. I believe that a lot of skills used in teaching are also required for this sort of role, though having to start again at the bottom will be kind of gruelling.

Mostly I just want to stop people asking, "Have you thought about becoming a proper teacher?" Duh.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught in Japan 15 years ago, and then returned to Canada and subsisted at language schools. Got an Internet job in NYC at PBS in 2001 that lasted only 6 months. Subsisted again on ESL work at language schools and coffee shops. Did an MA in International Relations. Only got job offers from the FBI "to carry a gun" for diplomatic security. Subsisted a little writing newspaper articles for a community rag. Couldn't take the pressure of daily deadlines. Concluded that I had to become a public school teacher. Taught ESL at a special ed school for about 4 and a half years in NYC. The kids were great but the administrators were at war with the union and teachers, and Mike the Mayor hates the teachers Union, so I quit. Landed a job as a full time teacher at a Japanese high school. Pay is reasonable and going full circle got me something better in ESL... So... yes... there is no escape!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this.....

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JBrown



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't surprising at all. The West has spent all of their money (actually all of their foreseeable future's money). China is about to be in the same boat. Once interest tops 75% of a country's GDP, work is going to become more and more scarce. Some people believe the US topped 100% interest/GDP ratio this year, but the government will never acknowledge that. Jobs are fewer because the money that should be spent today was actually spent several years ago. The reset, which is being delayed longer and longer through the printing of money and QE, will be extremely painful. IMO, it is best to look for work in countries that are not spending in the red. Good luck all!
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EFLeducator



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
Of course. EFLers and hypnotherapists both do something useless, for very little money, while their audience zones completely out.


Sad.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perilla wrote:
Zero wrote:
Of course. EFLers and hypnotherapists both do something useless, for very little money, while their audience zones completely out.


Classic! And one of the reasons I got out. Now I edit stuff that nobody reads!


Same here. While it is great to learn about a beautiful culture and its people, learning to speak another language, making friends with such warm, family oriented people...none of those things pays for food, shelter, and clothing plus retirement. Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero wrote:
EFLers and hypnotherapists both do something useless, for very little money


Shocked Surprised
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