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FarGone
Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Posts: 97
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Let us all agree, then, that the University of Buraimi and ELS (private contractor of teachers to UoB) are profit-driven enterprises, run by an assortment of businessmen from different countries around the so-called Middle East; that students at University of Buraimi have far too much influence in the decision-making processes (level placement; level advancement; grade changes) of the instructor than would ever happen in the West--and which should not be tolerated at any institution of learning.
The ELS/GFP & cohorts just gave in and buckled to every demand raised by the young adults here. Just bent over. It was sickening.
Don't ever take a job here. |
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Nolan Chance
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 45
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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FarGone wrote: |
The ELS/GFP & cohorts just gave in and buckled to every demand raised by the young adults here. Just bent over. It was sickening.
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I think it's always been the case that at the end of the day the lowliest student will often if not always have more clout than any expatriate teacher or administrator. Teachers need to understand the rules of the game and play it accordingly. If not, they should play another game they do understand. |
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cfaulkner
Joined: 01 Jun 2012 Posts: 42
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:15 am Post subject: |
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The best game to play is to not go to the Middle East to begin with, judging by the reputation that region must live down to. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:56 am Post subject: |
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cfaulkner wrote: |
The best game to play is to not go to the Middle East to begin with, judging by the reputation that region must live down to. |
Not so. Generally, if you possess strong (and desirable) TEFL qualifications/experience, you'll have more job opportunities to choose from. And that includes being hired by the better employers in the region. |
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FarGone
Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Posts: 97
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nolan Chance wrote: |
FarGone wrote: |
The ELS/GFP & cohorts just gave in and buckled to every demand raised by the young adults here. Just bent over. It was sickening.
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I think it's always been the case that at the end of the day the lowliest student will often if not always have more clout than any expatriate teacher or administrator. Teachers need to understand the rules of the game and play it accordingly. If not, they should play another game they do understand. |
No thank you. In seven years of teaching university English in the United States and eleven years in South Korea, the last three of those being within the graduate program in Translation & Interpretation, I have not experienced the student gaining an upper hand over instructors or administrators.
This is a Middle East thang, jack. & Oman is horrendous for it. (I taught on a military base in Saudi for four months, and--due to the military code--we Western professors were respected nearly absolutely and given back-up by the base Education Director (a black dude from Georgia, USA, converted to Islam and became base HOD/DOS; would have stayed, but my private contractor company was crooked like a corkscrew... |
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La Reve
Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Ici
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:27 am Post subject: Avoid University of Buraimi |
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At SUC, Steakinator mentioned his medical/insurance problems.
At U of Burami, insurance problems cost me $5,000. Doctors want cash, and want the patient to get reimbursed by the insurance company. For a very good reason.
The insurance company does not provide any info in writing. Says 'Yes' on the phone, but when I went to collect the check, said 'No.'
When the insurance agent said he was trained in the USA, and dropped words like pre-existing condition and others I figured he was well trained in fraud.
So don't plan on getting sick here.
My road pass ran out - had to go through the UAE/Omani border without a road pass. Talk about stress! People off praying, having to get eye scans, etc. All sorts of petty bureaucratic b.s. I won't ever visit the UAE again! |
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March Hare
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 21 Location: S. Korea
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject: Re: Avoid University of Buraimi |
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Nolan Chance wrote: |
Your 11 years in Oman don't seem to have taught you very much all. Yes, Omani business people are greedy. Business people all over the world are greedy. Deal with it and stop whingeing. You'll be a happier ( and less boring) person once you do. |
Yes, businesspeople everywhere are greedy, but in most places there are some limits to the greed, at least in a university setting. I've taught at private universities in several other countries and, while there was always a profit motive, they still managed to maintain academic and ethical standards. This is not the case here. |
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La Reve
Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Ici
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: Avoid University of Buraimi |
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In an Oman Tribune editorial of Thursday, 26th of July, �Dream becomes reality� the editor presented a fantasy concerning education in Oman. Facts about colleges and private universities in Oman show, on the contrary, that higher education is becoming more like a nightmare rather than a dream.
1. When 75% of students do not have books, is this a dream becoming a reality?
2. When university administrators point the finger of blame to others, not resolving the problem, is this a dream becoming a reality?
3. When contracted insurance companies fail to cover medical procedures, is this an era of insurance fraud?
4. When students not prepared for a college level English program are placed in levels they cannot do � and the students are either passed onto the next level or taught at a lower level, then passed to higher levels which are impossible for them to learn or succeed, is this an era of educational fraud?
5. When colleges mismanage student and teacher time schedules and classes run the full length of Ramadan, into the end of August, is this simply a minor hiccup?
6. When teacher recruiters insist summer pay is only issued after one full calendar year from the commencement of the contract, and not the last days of the contracted year, and hope teachers will simply leave and thus the recruiters can pocket the teachers� gratuities, is this simply a minor hiccup or corruption?
7. When administrators do not penalize students for excessive absences, lack of homework, disrespect of teachers or constant cheating on tests; while instructing teachers to dumb down exams for maximum passes, bully teachers, not provide office supplies like whiteboard markers and erasers, lie for each other, and smoke on the campus in view of students, is this another hiccup or is this corruption?
8. When administrators neither penalize nor offer academic policies regarding student plagarism, but instruct teachers to pass the students, even at the most respected facility in Oman, Sultan Qaboos University, is this simply another hiccup or is this corruption?
9. When administrators pass students despite teachers� protests, alter numbers, lower passing grades down to 50%, assure percentages tailor-fit and please the Dean and the Ministries, is this another hiccup or is this corruption?
10. When a person from the Ministry of Manpower visits a college and asks, �Why are you graduating students who can�t speak English?� and hears only silence, is this a nightmare?
11. When a teacher (myself) must go to court over a case of sexual harassment, only to have the guilty party enlist other administrators to lie for him; and to go to court because the recruiter did not follow the Labor Law during negotiations, is this a nightmare or corruption?
From my point of view, having taught English at both the Ministry of Manpower and the Ministry of Higher Education and a private university for more than 10 years, these Ministries and the country of Oman possess the illusion of having provided its young people with an excellent educational system. A delusion, not a dream made reality.
Where is the oversight? Where is the responsibility? Where is the justice? Where is the enlightened education? |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Much of that is true of all educational institutions in the Gulf and has been true since the '80s. Their ball and their court... as long as they are the ones paying, they get to set their own priorities and if we don't like it, it is time to move on. They really don't much care about our opinions or advice, and when they do, they will ask.
The key for us is to try to avoid recruiters and new employers... but that usually depends on our credentials and experience. Those with the weaker CVs will have to deal with weaker educational systems that don't share our opinions or standards. If one doesn't have the ability to deal with substandard conditions, avoid these positions. (possession of an MA is the key to moving up to the better employers)
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La Reve
Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Ici
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject: Avoid University of Buraimi |
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Nearly all jobs, as far as I know, go through recruiters in Oman.
It's part of the corruption process - to spread the money around. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: |
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There are a significant number of private universities, although SQU is one of the few government institutions that has stayed away from recruiters. (they actually tried using one some years ago and it was such a disaster that they dumped them after a couple years)
There is University of Nizwa, and 5-10 small unis in Muscat area, and 3-5 in Salalah. I believe that Sohar University direct hires. Granted other than SQU and UoN, most are quite small, but they are there.
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La Reve
Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 75 Location: Ici
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:54 am Post subject: Avoid University of Buraimi |
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And most of them are as bad as Buraimi. Read about Sur University College. That's an excellent summary of the state of education in Oman. |
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veiledsentiments

Joined: 20 Feb 2003 Posts: 17644 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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No, they are reflective of education in the Gulf at the lower levels. And the reality is that at every one of the institutions that have complainers on here, there are teachers who are doing just fine. They manage to not repeatedly cross swords with the management, to teach their classes, to do what they can for the students who are serious, to bank their salary, and to enjoy what Oman has to offer.
My repeated advice stays the same. Get an MA and get up the scale. These low level jobs can do their part to provide experience with Arabic speakers and Academic English for your CV is you play your cards right and manage to leave with a letter of reference.
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The Steakinator
Joined: 13 Apr 2012 Posts: 71 Location: Oman
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
There is University of Nizwa,... |
Isn't there a thread up about how awful it was to work at University of Nizwa? I worked with a guy who had done three years there, he said the two Omanis who came in and took over more or less turned the place upside down in 2010-2011. |
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FarGone
Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Posts: 97
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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veiledsentiments wrote: |
No, they are reflective of education in the Gulf at the lower levels. And the reality is that at every one of the institutions that have complainers on here, there are teachers who are doing just fine. They manage to not repeatedly cross swords with the management, to teach their classes, to do what they can for the students who are serious, to bank their salary, and to enjoy what Oman has to offer.
My repeated advice stays the same. Get an MA and get up the scale. These low level jobs can do their part to provide experience with Arabic speakers and Academic English for your CV is you play your cards right and manage to leave with a letter of reference.
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La Reve has an M.A. and probably 15 years (?) teaching experience abroad, including 10 years in Oman and several in South Korea. The question of qualifications is wrongly addressed by you to the aforementioned.  |
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