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Opiate
Joined: 10 Aug 2011
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Location: Qingdao
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| The new semester has started and the Program B Director has not been fired or demoted, despite all the Internet activity over the summer. It�s the Asian thing of losing face as the ultimate personal disaster. It�s not uncommon for them to commit suicide rather than endure losing face. Witness the former president of South Korea. The Chinese administrators knew early on last semester that this guy was a serious problem. But rather than lose face, they supported him no matter how bad the situation got. They hired him, so they can�t admit they made a mistake. The only way they can fire him is if he does something against them. The damage he does to the school�s reputation doesn�t factor into their formula unless that damage affects them personally. |
Do you even believe what you type? |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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| The Program B director has resigned. |
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DosEquisX
Joined: 09 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 2:10 am Post subject: |
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After dealing with this person for a week, my final response was the following:
Dear *****:
I have given you my contact number multiple times. If you had read my resume and my original e-mail more carefully (and the form you asked me to fill out), it should have been entirely obvious to you that I live in China and that said number is local. Additionally, your e-mails -- filled with grammatical and punctuation errors, and using an absurdly huge font size -- do not inspire confidence in this school, particularly since I have read many negative posts and threads concerning it. I am now inclined to believe that most of those posts and threads are accurate. I am no longer interested in this position/offer.
Best regards,
**** *******
I will no longer require any information regarding this school... and I suggest that prospective teachers approach it with great caution. |
Yeah, I was contacted for scheduling an interview after filling out that form they gave me. I passed on the position after reading more about the uni.
Now they're asking me why. Seems a bit unprofessional to do that. Not quite sure what to say or if I should say anything at all. Many people have been spreading some very negative rumors about the head honchos of the uni. They are portrayed as vindictive, anti-social and borderline psychotic.
Is there a chance that this place will try to slander/destroy me for passing at this stage? |
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puzzlebox
Joined: 29 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:37 pm Post subject: PZ |
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| arcueil_1 wrote: |
After dealing with this person for a week, my final response was the following:
Dear *****:
I have given you my contact number multiple times. If you had read my resume and my original e-mail more carefully (and the form you asked me to fill out), it should have been entirely obvious to you that I live in China and that said number is local. Additionally, your e-mails -- filled with grammatical and punctuation errors, and using an absurdly huge font size -- do not inspire confidence in this school, particularly since I have read many negative posts and threads concerning it. I am now inclined to believe that most of those posts and threads are accurate. I am no longer interested in this position/offer.
Best regards,
**** *******
I will no longer require any information regarding this school... and I suggest that prospective teachers approach it with great caution. |
Yeah, I was contacted for scheduling an interview after filling out that form they gave me. I passed on the position after reading more about the uni.
Now they're asking me why. Seems a bit unprofessional to do that. Not quite sure what to say or if I should say anything at all. Many people have been spreading some very negative rumors about the head honchos of the uni. They are portrayed as vindictive, anti-social and borderline psychotic.
Is there a chance that this place will try to slander/destroy me for passing at this stage? |
I certainly wouldn't worry about the school slandering you for declining to pursue employment there. They already know their school has been labeled "A Place to Avoid" in various online ESL forums by several FTs (past and present).
If the FAO is being so unprofessional now in asking people why they are no longer interested in working there; it only shows that the forums are working to warn others and that the PZ admin has been exposed for their corrupt dealings with FTs, CTs and the students.
Be certain, many of the negative rumors you mention being aware of, are not just rumors. There has been much truth posted about the short comings of this school and its corrupt administration. This school has more than its share of troubles and the admin cannot be trusted at all; especially the FAO! |
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DosEquisX
Joined: 09 Dec 2010
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| Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I saw a video of one of the uni guys flipping out. Very dramatic.
I ignored the e-mail. Haven't heard back since. |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| puzzlebox, I can not longer access the string about Pei Zheng on TEFL.net. I suspect this is because some unwise posters used some unwise vocabulary in reference to China. Have you been able to access the site lately? |
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MESL
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| Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I saw a video of one of the uni guys flipping out. Very dramatic. |
Although the guy in the video was expressing himself as a fellow employee, he was nevertheless still the supervisor of everyone present. Most of the accusations he made were false. He did say one thing legit. Namely that a few foreigners angering the Chinese administration can affect the attitude toward all the foreigners. But no matter how legit someone's beef and no matter what the context, there is a certain standard of behavior for people in leadership and there are certain lines you cannot cross.
Foreign teachers who have been at Pei Zheng for a while told me that it's the same scenario over and over: A few foreigners will abuse a privilege or benefit, or take advantage of a situation, then the Chinese administration takes a reactionary approach and everybody suffers. This is why they started withholding the February pay until the end of the contract, the issue that caused so much controversy in the video. A few foreigners would collect their February pay, then not show for the spring semester. Since final exams are the end of December, they get are stealing 2 months pay. After this happened a few years in a row, apparently the financial officer put pressure on the foreign affairs officer, whose solution was to take action against everyone.
The guy in the video who had a meltdown was comfortable with having his February pay withheld and didn't want anyone rocking the boat. But a lot of foreign teachers strongly disapproved. The other guy in the video is the one who brought the issue to a head and many foreign teachers viewed him as a hero. Well, the final result is that the FAO backed down and gave everybody their February pay on time. |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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I have been in contact with Peizheng College during the last week and I must say that they have been quite unprofessional in the way that they have dealt with me.
For example, they did not even meet their interview appointment today because they repeatedly dialed the wrong number, even though my contact number was repeatedly provided to them. Supposedly, they thought that the number was an international one, yet it should have been obvious to anyone that claims to understand English that said number was local; all they needed to do was to actually *read* my initial e-mail, my resume, the asinine form that they asked me to fill out, and subsequent e-mails. In sum, the person that I was in contact with did not bother to proceed with the most fundamental step regarding potential employees -- she did not read any documents, and instead, gave them a fleeting glance, if that.
After dealing with this person for a week, my final response was the following:
Dear *****:
I have given you my contact number multiple times. If you had read my resume and my original e-mail more carefully (and the form you asked me to fill out), it should have been entirely obvious to you that I live in China and that said number is local. Additionally, your e-mails -- filled with grammatical and punctuation errors, and using an absurdly huge font size -- do not inspire confidence in this school, |
She�s young, she was new at the job, she was given no recruiting training, she was hired just before recruiting season, she was assigned to recruit dozens of foreign teachers in addition to her other duties. A worst case scenario. |
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igorG
Joined: 10 Aug 2010
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Location: asia
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Are you trying to make excuses for a grossly unprofessional school?
You are running a pretty good spam on the job related forums.
Amen |
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shadowrider
Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Necropost...
I was far worse when they (NOT the school in the thread here to clarify) threatened to withhold our end-of-January pay - we were told we will get double pay in February. We were of course still on Spring Holiday at that time. Basically most of the foreign teachers including myself refused to return to work until pay was made. (was made promptly after that).
Where I grew up, messing with someone's pay is pretty serious...
Same group of us that made the complaint to the administration didn't get our contracts renewed. You rolls ze dice, you takes yer chances... |
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therock
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Location: China
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:33 am Post subject: |
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If a school withheld payment from me, I would be gone the next day.
If schools are worried about teachers not returning, the simple thing is increase salaries and working conditions which would allow them to choose from more qualified candidates.
It's plain and simple: if you want the cheapest, don't expect the highest quality! |
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MESL
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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Remember the Chinese lady who served delicious sandwiches delivered to the dorms at affordable prices? Well, her and her foreign teacher husband now have their own Mexican restaurant. Basic Mexican dishes. Tacos, burritos, nachos, chips and salsa. Plus pizza, fries, beer, juice. Breakfast anytime. And of course, the sandwiches. Music. Free movies. Awesome furniture. Relaxed atmosphere. In the spring, a breeze blowing through the restaurant. The location is only a block from the school gate, but away from the bustle.
The I Need store that sells imported groceries is still in business, as is the Magic Caf�. Half a dozen new cafes, bars, and restaurants on restaurant row down the hill from the Magic Caf�. |
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MESL
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There�s been a rash of thefts on and off campus. Foreign teachers have had their laptops, stereos, and cash stolen from their dorm rooms. Someone masquerading as a maid went into one of the student dorms and plundered several rooms. Probably the work of a gang of professional thieves. Probably the same gang responsible for the rash of bicycle thefts, including one of my bikes.
When you buy a bicycle, notice that the bike salesman has a ring of lock keys. There�s only half a dozen keys and the thieves have a copy of all of them. So a lock bought in China will protect your bike only from students, not thieves. And many foreign teachers buy expensive bikes. So tether your bike and your computer with a lock brought from your home country or get one in Hong Kong. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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Subtitle to this post - MESL s China Job-related Posts Only blog
We ve gotten the point in these seven pages to this post. Great. Thanks. So really, what s the point in continuing? |
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MESL
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| We ve gotten the point in these seven pages to this post. Great. Thanks. So really, what s the point in continuing? |
Because there have been constant, major changes, on and off campus. Latest example, they are on the verge of their 7th attempt at becoming a full fledged university. The new president was brought in from Beijing, among other things, to increase their chances of passing the evaluation this time. If they fail this time, expect heads to roll. Since English lessons with native speakers are a major selling point to parents, expect those head to include the English program director and maybe the FAO. |
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