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Royal Iquama's-What's th Deal?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:44 am    Post subject: Royal Iquama's-What's th Deal? Reply with quote

Before anyone says do a search, I did! Nothing.

Just curious, are most royal iquama's sold or is that just some royals trying to raise cash? I've heard the usual fee is between 20-30K Riyals. Do you have to leave the country like a normal Iquama? How does it work compared to regular iquama's? Where can you get some info on them?

Are they worth getting if your employer sucks and you want some flexibility in employment and want to find another job?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a teacher it is not likely. Usual transcription is "Iqama".

Instaed of looking for "special routes", why not just apply for a job in the way that everyone else does ?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
For a teacher it is not likely. Usual transcription is "Iqama".

Instaed of looking for "special routes", why not just apply for a job in the way that everyone else does ?


Just trying to get some information, is that OK with you?!? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell you what - write to King Abdullah and ask him. He might be able to tell you what the plural of "Iqama" is.

Your question is rather like asking, "How much does it cost to get an MBE ?"
Even if they are bought and sold, you do not ask. Chances of getting one as a TEACHER approach zero.


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abayababy



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know everyone can make a typo now and then. Heck, Scot just wrote instaed instead of instead! But to use the possessive form for iqama twice when you clearly intend to state the plural is just inexcusable for an English teacher.
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EnglishDoYouSpeakIt



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:

Even if they are bought and sold, you do not ask. Chances of getting one as a TEACHER approach zero.


That's extremely not true. I know two teachers who have iqamas and their kafeel is some Saudi princess they paid about 30,000 riyals.

It's not something you can just do, mind you. You have to meet people and find someone who knows someone. Not impossible, but nothing someone can't do.

Often employers want you on their iqama anyway, as that way they can control you easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See the other part of the post
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'Your question is rather like asking, "How much does it cost to get an MBE ?"
Even if they are bought and sold, you do not ask. Chances of getting one as a TEACHER approach zero.'

What are you going to do, walk around Riyadh until you see someone who looks like a prince and then buttopnole him ?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
That's extremely not true.


What's not true? You know two teachers who have this... so how does that contradict what scot said about the chances of getting one approaching zero? English,DoYouSpeakIt?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes... so... that is true of 2... out of how many teachers who have passed through KSA in the last 20 years or so? I'd agree that the chances of Mr Random Poster on Dave's getting one of these are exactly -0-.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EnglishDoYouSpeakIt wrote:
scot47 wrote:

Even if they are bought and sold, you do not ask. Chances of getting one as a TEACHER approach zero.


That's extremely not true. I know two teachers who have iqamas and their kafeel is some Saudi princess they paid about 30,000 riyals.

It's not something you can just do, mind you. You have to meet people and find someone who knows someone. Not impossible, but nothing someone can't do.

Often employers want you on their iqama anyway, as that way they can control you easier.


30,000 for an igama???? Seems rather foolish to me. Pardon my ignorance, but please explain to me the superior benefits of obtaining an igama this way as oposed to the 'normal' way that most people manage when coming to KSA to work. If you don't like your employer, you quit and start again...seems to me it would still be alot cheaper than paying 30k.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously getting some Prince to sponsor you is NOT the way to go. I will leave you to imagine what can happen when one of these guys controls your life.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Seriously getting some Prince to sponsor you is NOT the way to go. I will leave you to imagine what can happen when one of these guys controls your life.

Ditto for working for a Saudi princess. Some years back, one of my teaching colleagues worked as a personal skin care specialist to a princess. She said the job was far from glamorous because she had to spend most of her time on the premises in order to be available 24/7, 365 days a year.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who do this are those who wish to live in KSA for a long time. People with children in schools, with apartments or villas. They do this as it gives them the freedom of staying in the country while they seek out new employment, transfer jobs etc.

Those who say "Only 2 out of all the teachers..." That's a logical fallacy. I know of two who have 'royal iqamas', out of all the people I know. I don't know every teacher to come through KSA in the last twenty years, do I?

The same to you, nomad soul, you give one example of someone working for a princess and thus having any princess as your kafeel must be terrible? Generalize much?

I also expressed the difficulty in finding and securing such an iqama. Sure, the average teacher who sits in their apartment watching movies and hating their life here won't network well enough to make such a connection.

Finally, I didn't at all say that is was the way to go. I never once was supportive of the idea, just providing relevant accurate information so at least a smidgen out of it can be found on this forum. You're welcome.

Edit: I forgot. 30,000 is a lot, sure. These people do this because they see it as a long term thing to make their living situation secure in the kingdom. So they see it as just about two months salary, worth it to them.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear EnglishDoYouSpeakIt,

"These people do this because they see it as a long term thing to make their living situation secure in the kingdom."

"Put not your trust in princes" Psalm 146:3 Very Happy


Regards,
John
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:


"Put not your trust in princes" Psalm 146:3 Very Happy


+1 Laughing
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