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Who is your favourite Russian composer then?
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: Who is your favourite Russian composer then? Reply with quote

This was a question, posed in my classroom, which elicited quite a lot of good language.

Might be interesting for us as teachers to voice our preferences too. I am quite taken with Borodin at the moment. I'll spare you all the superlative adjectives though. Listen to him yourself and supply your own : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK_a73LC7_k


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's difficult to choose just one. I enjoy Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Alexander Scriabin and of course, Tchaikovsky.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mussorgsky.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pressed on your link and found some Chomsky follower. I am not keen on Chomsky and was not aware of his or Pinker's contributions to Russian musical composition.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Cole. I was getting mixed up on the links front. Has been corrected. Now listen to the aural feast : )
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Cheers Cole. I was getting mixed up on the links front. Has been corrected. Now listen to the aural feast : )

Thanks. Enjoyable.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tchaikovsky first and foremost, followed by Rachmaninov, Rimsky-Korsakov, and Borodin.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot to be said about Scriabin too, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bW7C8ulp8s
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
A lot to be said about Scriabin too, of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bW7C8ulp8s



Scriabin is fine, but he's no Rachmaninov.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vna-_bCgb70
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I dunno. I think they both have something special to offer. Of course, some listeners get really sniffy about Sergei Vasilievich, for his crime of being immensely popular. "How could he?!"

Interesting clip here about just said theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwBNOBVsXPw
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that link Smile I used to play trombone in high school, and the philosophy was the same: prepare for contests. We would play the hell out of three or four pieces, and the emphasis was on technical elements rather than emotional expression.

I didn't mean to put down Scriabin. Their styles differ. Music isn't a competitive sport.

I feel Pyotr Ilych is the greatest victim of immense popularity. He was a genius, but because of his popularity many music critics then and now see him as the court favorite, producing saccharine sweet pablum for the nobility and bourgeoisie. The extensive use of his music in TV and film, and of course the annual Nutcracker performances at Christmas time, only serve to diminish his reputation among the artsy-fartsy.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yer welcome! I'd say, however, that Sergei Vasilievich is a greater victim than Pyotr Ilych. I don't know too many arty types who'd be gauche enough to say that they looked down on the latter. But for the former, it seems to be a badge of honour among the atonalists whom I know...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
Oh, I dunno. I think they both have something special to offer. Of course, some listeners get really sniffy about Sergei Vasilievich, for his crime of being immensely popular. "How could he?!"

Interesting clip here about just said theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwBNOBVsXPw

They sound pretty similar to me. Neutral
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avogadro's Number wrote:
Music isn't a competitive sport.

I feel Pyotr Ilych is the greatest victim of immense popularity. He was a genius, but because of his popularity many music critics then and now see him as the court favorite, producing saccharine sweet pablum for the nobility and bourgeoisie. The extensive use of his music in TV and film, and of course the annual Nutcracker performances at Christmas time, only serve to diminish his reputation among the artsy-fartsy.



The artsy-fartsy can kiss my kasha and sod off. I love Tchaikovsky from the very core of my being, and if his music has become too 'popular' for the cutting edge elitny symphony goers, they can shove their gilded opera glasses right up their arses.

Tchaikovsky is the god of romantic composition: and that is all.

I saw the Nutcracker at the Bolshoi for Christmas, I think a year or two before it closed for renovation (maybe 2005?). Stunning performance, Tchaikovsky at his roosky finest, Russian ballerinas, extravagant set, beautiful costumes, brilliant orchestra--total awe and utter joy. The Bolshoi with it's worn red velvet seats, threadbare carpets, chandeliers, 19th century marble and mirrored Гардероб; unrenovated, worn, loved, and completely grand.

Any snob who disrespects all that has no idea what they're talking about. Ignore such fools.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Expat - now tell em what you really feel!
Mussorgsky - now he is the man! Can really handle a drink too, by all accounts.
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