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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Dear abayababy,
Well, I can provide your friend with the e-mail/facebook addresses of at least eight Saudis and 6 Westerners currently in the Kingdom who will be happy to refute her info.
Please PM me for details.
Regards,
John
P.S. Just a personal opinion, but your friend sounds like an----- |
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abayababy
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 109
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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If it's so important to you to prove your point, John, then feel free to PM me, though I'd rather pick lint from my navel than continue this asinine argument and follow up with your "friends", so I probably won't bother. I'm pretty sure my roommate feels the same way. But at least you can tell yourself you had the last word. I'm sure that's worth something to you so it's all yours. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Dear abayababy,
Proving my point is not the point. I think it's important to try to provide info that is as valid as possible on these forums since posts are read by many people who are considering going to Saudi.
If we wittingly or unwittingly provide them with info that is not accurate, then we are culpable should they make a bad decision based on that info.
Regards,
John
P.S. Please have the last word - having it matters not one whit to me. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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My experience and information tallies with johnslat's. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Dear scot47,
Well, sure - but that's only because all we old-timers stick together.
Regards,
John |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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"The Conspiracy of Dunces" !!! |
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dr_haron
Joined: 02 Apr 2013 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for enriching the post with your debate. I conclude from you discussion that it is very difficult �if not impossible- to change employer in KSA. So is the only way to change employer is to get out of the country and apply for a new visa? |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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Dear dr_heron,
The ONLY way - no. I actually knew one teacher who managed to get transferred while in-country.
If the outfit that's trying to hire you wants you badly enough AND has the "wasta" (i.e. clout, influence) to pull it off, it can happen.
However, I'd say it would be less than wise to depend on your being able to do it.
Regards,
John |
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cmp45
Joined: 17 Aug 2004 Posts: 1475 Location: KSA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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dr_haron wrote: |
Thanks guys for enriching the post with your debate. I conclude from you discussion that it is very difficult �if not impossible- to change employer in KSA. So is the only way to change employer is to get out of the country and apply for a new visa? |
If you jump ship shortly after starting your new job, you most likely will not be making any job transfer with a new sponsor (legally).
My advice is...If you can manage to focus on the job you applied for and work for a min. of two years, perhaps then you may consider attempting the illusive sponsor transfer without leaving the country. As stated by John and Scott, your chances are minimal at best. You need to create some serious inroads /connections to make such a switch happen and that takes time. Most employers prefer you go back home and start the process all over again. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Dear cmp45,
I don't think I'd go so far as to call it "illusive," but I'd go along with elusive.
Regards,
John |
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dr_haron
Joined: 02 Apr 2013 Posts: 27
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:13 am Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
Dear cmp45,
I don't think I'd go so far as to call it "illusive," but I'd go along with elusive.
Regards,
John |
In either case it is not easy. |
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Grendal
Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Posts: 861 Location: Lurking in the depths of the Faisaliah Tower underground parking.
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:22 am Post subject: |
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ooohhh ouch .... condescending arrogance. not I, not I. please it hurts so much my eyes to read these words.
Grendal |
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