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Wanderir
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:54 am Post subject: Moving to Bangkok and Taking a Cert Course. Need advice |
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Good Day!
I'm moving to Bangkok in a couple of weeks. I have a university degree, I'm a native english speaker from the US and I'm going to get a cert. I've been accepted into a CELTA course, but now I'm having second thoughts.
Here is my dilema. I'm concerned about a number of things:
1. Will a CELTA or TEFL course better prepare me for teaching Thais? I have limited teaching experience and want to be as prepared as possible.
2. If I take a TEFL course, which one do I pick? It looks like SEE TEFL and TEFL Plus have the best on line ratings, but Island TEFL offers a 3 week course for about $1000 less and Talk and Text has what looks like an interesting program, but I'm not sure they have a good course. I've read over and over again, that it doesn't mater what cert you get as long as it's a 120 hours.
3. Since I plan to live in Bangkok, would I be better off taking a course there so I could start making connections, rather than taking one in Chaing Mai or Phuket?
4. Someone suggested on another thread that getting some volunteer experience in would be a good idea and give me exposure to different groups of students. Is this really worth doing? I get that I just missed the big hiring window. I was riding a motorcycle through Vietnam and having too much fun to stop!
A bit about me. I've been managing people and working with technology since I was 19 and I'm now 48. I've been trying to get out of high tech and transition into something else for over 5 years. I'm moving into teaching because it's something I've always wanted to do and I like kids. I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts and have developed class material and taught jewelry and technology classes in educational and professional settings.
I've been to Thailand a couple of times and it's my favorite country in Asia. I'm more concerned with quality of live than getting rich, or I'd be doing something else for work.
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Moving to Bangkok and Taking a Cert Course. Need advice |
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Wanderir wrote: |
Good Day!
I'm moving to Bangkok in a couple of weeks. I have a university degree, I'm a native english speaker from the US and I'm going to get a cert. I've been accepted into a CELTA course, but now I'm having second thoughts.
Here is my dilema. I'm concerned about a number of things:
1. Will a CELTA or TEFL course better prepare me for teaching Thais? I have limited teaching experience and want to be as prepared as possible.
2. If I take a TEFL course, which one do I pick? It looks like SEE TEFL and TEFL Plus have the best on line ratings, but Island TEFL offers a 3 week course for about $1000 less and Talk and Text has what looks like an interesting program, but I'm not sure they have a good course. I've read over and over again, that it doesn't mater what cert you get as long as it's a 120 hours.
3. Since I plan to live in Bangkok, would I be better off taking a course there so I could start making connections, rather than taking one in Chaing Mai or Phuket?
4. Someone suggested on another thread that getting some volunteer experience in would be a good idea and give me exposure to different groups of students. Is this really worth doing? I get that I just missed the big hiring window. I was riding a motorcycle through Vietnam and having too much fun to stop!
A bit about me. I've been managing people and working with technology since I was 19 and I'm now 48. I've been trying to get out of high tech and transition into something else for over 5 years. I'm moving into teaching because it's something I've always wanted to do and I like kids. I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts and have developed class material and taught jewelry and technology classes in educational and professional settings.
I've been to Thailand a couple of times and it's my favorite country in Asia. I'm more concerned with quality of live than getting rich, or I'd be doing something else for work.
Any and all advice or ideas, greatly appreciated! |
1) yes.
2) The cheap courses have "issues". You pay $1000 less but if you won't work for them for 6 months (in the placement of their choosing) after your course it will cost you $500 more to get your actual TEFL cert. Just pay for the CELTA or just skip it since you have the degree (all that is legally needed) anyway.
3) It would make sense to take the course in BKK unless the idea of a vacation on the beach is more in tune with your idea of a TEFL course than actually learning something.
4) The sooner you get here the sooner you get to work. School starts tomorrow.
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Wanderir
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks tttompatz!
Sorry, I wasn't clear on my first question. Which was meant to be:
Will either a CELTA course with a Young Learners component or a TEFL class that includes subject matter on teaching Thais be more helpful for teaching in Thailand.
I agree, that getting started is better than later. I'll be back in Thailand on May 27. There's a TEFL course starting on June 3rd in Phuket and the CELTA course I've been accepted to starting on July1.
I'm inclined to take the earlier course so can start looking for work sooner, but is it worth waiting to take a Celta if I don't plan on teaching outside of SEA?
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Wanderir wrote: |
Thanks tttompatz!
Sorry, I wasn't clear on my first question. Which was meant to be:
Will either a CELTA course with a Young Learners component or a TEFL class that includes subject matter on teaching Thais be more helpful for teaching in Thailand.
I agree, that getting started is better than later. I'll be back in Thailand on May 27. There's a TEFL course starting on June 3rd in Phuket and the CELTA course I've been accepted to starting on July1.
I'm inclined to take the earlier course so can start looking for work sooner, but is it worth waiting to take a Celta if I don't plan on teaching outside of SEA?
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At the end of the day the CELTA is a better choice but it is your money.
Even in SE Asia the CELTA travels well. The rest, largely, do not.
If you want to do the one on the beach then all I can say is "caveat emptor" and suggest that any course provider who spends more time selling the beach location than the course tells you where the focus is: vacation rather than vocation.
I would suggest that you find the job (easy enough to do at this time of year) and then do your course during the semester or term breaks (Oct or March-May).
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Wanderir
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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tttompatz,
Very interesting suggestion. I'd not thought of it because I was so focused on getting a cert. I'll have to see what jobs are available that don't require a cert.
Thanks so much! |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Wanderir wrote: |
tttompatz,
Very interesting suggestion. I'd not thought of it because I was so focused on getting a cert. I'll have to see what jobs are available that don't require a cert.
Thanks so much! |
This is Thailand.
Legal work requires a degree and one of:
a) passport from an anglophone country (UK, USA, Ireland, Canada, Australia, NZ)
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b) TOEIC score over 600.
A TEFL cert is NOT required to find work.
It is NOT required to get a visa, provisional teaching permit or work permit.
If you meet the requirements as set out by the government then you simply need to find a school who still needs a teacher.
Avoid agencies if at all possible.
Google "ajarn" (Thai word for teacher) for the other (teach in Thailand info) site as well.
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Wanderir
Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks! I've got a couple of leads and I'm writing my resume. I just need to do that and take a headshot and off I go! |
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